McMillian TAC-50 in Canada?

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Hey all, this is my first post and was wondering if anyone has an information on the McMillian TAC-50. Is it a restricted firearm in Canada? I've been reading that finding .50 BMG rounds in Canada can be next to impossible, but I'd really love to have one of these beasts for my own personal entertainment. Are there any cheaper variants to the McMillian TAC style rifles besides the prohibited "Light fifty" from barrett?

Also, I know this has probably been brought up a million times, and everyone has different answer according to their tastes, but I'm purchasing a new rifle for mostly whitetail and black bear hunting and I'd like some caliber advice. It's possible I might attempt an elk at some point, or maybe even a moose so I need some stopping power. Ive read great things over the last month about 3 cartridges in particular. The .270, the 30-06, and the .308.

From what I understand:

.270 shoots flatter and further than the other 2 but packs a little less whollop due to the smaller projectile and smaller grain bullets. Minimal bullet selection and somewhat expensive.

.30-06 shoots far and flat, but not quite as far as the .270 but has more stopping power due to higher grain bullets and larger caliber. More bullet selection and moderately priced.

.308 most drop of the 3 calibers but also shoots the heaviest rounds resulting in less wind and foliage interference. Very large bullet selection and cheapest ammo.

Is this in anyway shape or form accurate?

What about other Calibers such as 7mm mag, .280, 7mm-06, .300 mag, .300 savage and British?

My hunting style:
Mostly stalking, lots of open area and fields, thin hardwood forest. I love taking long range shots 300\400+ yards as long as I can get an ethical shot so the more range I can get out of a rifle without sacrificing stopping power, the better.

Thoughts?
 
the real question is how much do you really need the 50bmg, are you expecting taking down armored vehicles? Nothing wrong with the 30-06 for the biggest game in canada.
we do have 338s in canada, it's still quite a caliber.
 
CanAm said:
none that can be exported from the US. I suggest a Canadian or European 50 BMG.
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Whoa whoa whoa... there's Canadian .50 BMG rounds?? lol Are they interchangeable with American .50 BMG rounds? Say for example would they work in a TAC-50 McMillian? Or are they completely different?

Do you know of any Canadian websites that sell Canadian .50BMG rifles and rounds?
 
charles.emond said:
the real question is how much do you really need the 50bmg, are you expecting taking down armored vehicles? Nothing wrong with the 30-06 for the biggest game in canada.
we do have 338s in canada, it's still quite a caliber.
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I would never hunt with a .50 but I sure would love to shoot some steel plates at 1000 yards at the range :D
 
CanAm said:
you need to read up on guns. ammo is standardized. 50 bmg is the same no matter who makes it. TAC-50 is a rifle, not a cartridge.
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I wasn't sure if the Canadian derivative was different, but thanks for the info. I know the TAC-50 is a rifle, not a round but I thought the only place .50BMG rifle ammo was made was in the USA, therefore leading me to believe the Canadian made ammo was different.

Now that I know I can purchase .50 BMG ammo in Canada my question has been answered. Thanks!

Now....

any advice on the long(er) range deer\bear rifle?
 
cpynch said:
I wasn't sure if the Canadian derivative was different, but thanks for the info. I know the TAC-50 is a rifle, not a round but I thought the only place .50BMG rifle ammo was made was in the USA, therefore leading me to believe the Canadian made ammo was different.

Now that I know I can purchase .50 BMG ammo in Canada my question has been answered. Thanks!

Now....

any advice on the long(er) range deer\bear rifle?
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Something in 308 30.06 or any of the other .300 calibers... If you are hunting at a half mile or so look for a 338.. But you might want to start a little smaller...
 
bear.23 said:
Something in 308 30.06 or any of the other .300 calibers... If you are hunting at a half mile or so look for a 338.. But you might want to start a little smaller...
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I'm quite comfortable with rifles, I own a .243 and I've fired a .308 a dozen or so times and kick isn't really an issue. I'm a fairly big guy @ 6"2, 230Lbs, so you think a .338 Lapua might be a good choice? Is it going to leave any meat left to harvest if I end up shooting a whitetail at 75 yards? lol

I'm all for a big caliber as long as I can still get my venison jerky!
 
Forget the 338 lap unless very long range accuracy is your game. Even then 338 win mag is a better choice as the ammo is WAY cheaper and more available. There is also the 338 RUM, although I don't know how popular it will remain.The 338 RUM is very close to the lapua and also much cheaper. Talk to the various accuracy gurus here, I doubt many shoot the 338 lap.

FWIW I have been considering a 338 RUM M700 for a couple years now. I just never get anywhere to shoot at the needed distance.
 
cpynch said:
I'm quite comfortable with rifles, I own a .243 and I've fired a .308 a dozen or so times and kick isn't really an issue. I'm a fairly big guy @ 6"2, 230Lbs, so you think a .338 Lapua might be a good choice? Is it going to leave any meat left to harvest if I end up shooting a whitetail at 75 yards? lol

I'm all for a big caliber as long as I can still get my venison jerky!
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and you figure there would be much with at 50 BMG? I said 338 or 300 didn't suggest 338 LM as it's really not a hunting caliber.. Unless you are hunting bipedal targets...
 
bear.23 said:
and you figure there would be much with at 50 BMG? I said 338 or 300 didn't suggest 338 LM as it's really not a hunting caliber.. Unless you are hunting bipedal targets...
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Heh negative on the bipedal targets.

Sorry for the confusion, as I stated in an earlier post, these are 2 different topics. I want a .50cal for fun only, strictly at a range every once in a while just for ####s and giggles. I guess the .338LM would also fall into this category, and now that I think about it would probably be a cheaper alternative to the .50BMG and still have the 1000+ yard distance I want.

As CanAm suggested I did some looking at the .338 Win mag and it seems to be a highly regarded round for anything in north america so its more than enough rifle for anything I'd want to take. From what I've read up on it, the smallest grain round you can get is 180, do you think this bullet\rifle combo would be too much bang for a whitetail?
 
cpynch said:
Heh negative on the bipedal targets.

Sorry for the confusion, as I stated in an earlier post, these are 2 different topics. I want a .50cal for fun only, strictly at a range every once in a while just for s**ts and giggles. I guess the .338LM would also fall into this category, and now that I think about it would probably be a cheaper alternative to the .50BMG and still have the 1000+ yard distance I want.

As CanAm suggested I did some looking at the .338 Win mag and it seems to be a highly regarded round for anything in north america so its more than enough rifle for anything I'd want to take. From what I've read up on it, the smallest grain round you can get is 180, do you think this bullet\rifle combo would be too much bang for a whitetail?
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I'm not a hunter... 270 can be too much for deer.. I've always been partial to 308 I think it's an "all round" caliber... But that's just me..
 
cpynch said:
Now....

any advice on the long(er) range deer\bear rifle?
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www.longrangehunting.com will have all the info you could possibly want on the topic.

My personal LR portable hunting rig is a Savage in 7RM with a brake. I hunt in cut blocks and end to end can reach 600yds. Most shots are in the 300 to 400yds range.

A 162gr AMax or SST or 168gr/180gr Berger will put down any and all game you plan on hunting at the distances you want to shoot. Very good BC bullets which can help with the winds blow.

The 30's and 338's hit harder but don't kill any faster IF the bullets go where they are supposed to.

On that website, I cover building a rifle, scope set up and testing, and reloading for LR shooting. I will have another load tuning and rifle build article up shortly.

Just remember that you need to shoot alot so choose something you can afford to shoot and replace....

Jerry
 
mysticplayer said:
My personal LR portable hunting rig is a Savage in 7RM with a brake. I hunt in cut blocks and end to end can reach 600yds. Most shots are in the 300 to 400yds range.

A 162gr AMax or SST or 168gr/180gr Berger will put down any and all game you plan on hunting at the distances you want to shoot. Very good BC bullets which can help with the winds blow.
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I've been looking at Ballistic charts and the differences between all of the 7mm variants save the 7mm-08 are quite similar. The -08 being slightly less powerful at slightly less distances.

From your experience, out of the 7mm cartridges what is going to be the most user friendly as far as price and availability are concerned? I don't particularly want to have to pay more than $45-55\box for ammo, and I know some of the 7mm ammo can be quite pricey in the range of $60-70 CAN...

WSM looks neat, so does RM and UM. Are any of these rounds more suited to Deer-elk sized game more than the others? Or is it just the pot calling the kettle black?
 
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