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I have been thinking of buying an inline muzzel loader.
what would you recomend for a rifle for the bigginer.
what would you recomend for a rifle for the bigginer.
Inline muzzle loaders
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TC Omega....or TC Encore (or variant thereof) if you never want to by another muzzleloader ever. Other options (if you can find them)
Knight Disc (contrary to popular belief, they still are offering warranty and accessories)
Austin and Halleck
White
.....all of which are are excellent lines, just fell victim to harsh economic times, or politics.
The Remington ML (discontinued) sometimes pops up on the EE.
Cheers, Hakx
Knight Disc (contrary to popular belief, they still are offering warranty and accessories)
Austin and Halleck
White
.....all of which are are excellent lines, just fell victim to harsh economic times, or politics.
The Remington ML (discontinued) sometimes pops up on the EE.
Cheers, Hakx
Savage 10ML-SS! None of the bother of dealing with BP or BP substitutes. Very accurate and you get a heck of a lot more velocity from your loads, for extended range. Easy to clean, doesn't have to be cleaned right away, uses more efficient, cleaner burning powders and are cheaper to feed. 
Savage 10ML-SS! None of the bother of dealing with BP or BP substitutes. Very accurate and you get a heck of a lot more velocity from your loads, for extended range.
Easy to clean, doesn't have to be cleaned right away, uses more efficient, cleaner burning powders and are cheaper to feed.
Well that takes all the fun out of it...no smoke..Ahhhh.
And the OP said "beginner"...I wouldn't recommend the Savage using smokeless to a beginer...unless he is an experienced reloader.
Are you using ballistic bridges with your high velocity loads? No doubt the Savage will post some impressive numbers but sabots are the weak link and seem to max out around 2,200fps....well within bp substitute range. Just curious what velocities you are shooting and how you are dealing with sabot base blow outs....
I have a lot of muzzleloaders from stoneage to modern The idea of dropping 2-3 pellets of 777 and a hornady sst bullet and sabot is fine if you want to kill something way out there.I find myself going back to a sidelock with sights and 2f goex round ball or conical and sit and wait untill that deer comes into range.I make sure that my one shot is a good one. It is more fun at the range also when you can out shoot your hunting buddy who has the latest greatest thing with a old sidelock that you have been with for the last 15 yrs. That is why i am selling my T/C endeavor I like the old ways...
ok well maybe it will be a little of a downgrade. i have 6 blackpowder guns right now but i need more! and i want one that i can use with smokeless.
i am looking at buying this one $899.00
Model 10MLBTSS-II – with AccuTrigger
I think your right sticking with the old way's this year I am also going to go out with my 1863 Springfield in 58 cal and see what I can find lol.
I'd recommend the Savage 10MLII. I'm shooting 43 grains of SR4759 pushing a 250 grain hornady bullet. Its extremely low maintenance being smokeless powder, very accurate, very consistent. Easy to just open the bolt and drop the primer into its holder and close the bolt. Its as close to having a single shot modern cartridge rifle as you can get in a muzzleloader and no need to keep trying this years latest and greatest blackpowder substitute that promises you that its non fouling. They discovered a substitute for blackpowder years ago and its smokeless. Look no further.
what the max grains of SR4759 this gun takes?
The only negative I can place on the 10MLII is its length and weight. Its built off a bolt action receiver and uses a fairly heavy barrel. The (unnecessary?) addition of the length of the receiver and bolt makes the gun long for its actual barrel length. Say you put it along side a T/C that has a longer barrel but more compact receiver and you notice the effect of the receiver on the overall length. I think you need to pick one up at the gun store and handle it, and see what you think of it. Whether its something you would want to carry, shoulder and shoot. If so, I think you'll be pleased with it. If you want something lighter, there's other great guns out there, just not smokeless.
How many times have you had to change your vent liner Grizzly?
Hi Starpuss,nice to see another Winnipeger going Smokeless !
Go to Modern Muzzleloader on line and read what our American Cousins think of the Savage.
I went Savage several years ago and haven't fired my Knight since.Are you a member of a Gun Club in Winnipeg ?
Go to Modern Muzzleloader on line and read what our American Cousins think of the Savage.
I went Savage several years ago and haven't fired my Knight since.Are you a member of a Gun Club in Winnipeg ?
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I bought the gun last summer. Shot with it first with iron sights, then I was so impressed I had to put a scope on it. Pulled the Leupolf off my troublesome 300WM. Tried some different bullets, 250 XTP's using bulk black sabots and then hornday SST's. Found they still hit the same spot on the target at 100 yards. Tried some shooting out at Selkirk at 200 yrds, but I don't think I was using enough elevation at 100 to get them on paper. Abandoned that line of reasoning. Then just before hunting season I swapped in a new vent liner and fired a couple more shots to make sure it was still zero'd. I ended up shooting two deer in muzzle, one for me and one for my brother-in-law. He was too lazy to want to clean his rifle and said I should take the shot. Shot them at just shy of 100 yards and the bullet hit right where I figured it would and did what it was supposed to. So, I've had no significant issue with vent liners or diminishing accuracy. I'm not really sure when that starts to occur. The vent liners are easy to change and cheap, so I'd say put a new one in just before the hunt and re-check your zero.
I would say I shot 28 rounds through it before I changed the vent liner out of caution. How long they last after that, as I say not sure. Probably best not to push your luck if its critical to a consistent shot.
um vent liners that sucks. I would have to change mine every time I go out then. (When I go target shooting I shoot maybe 20-50 rds a day. (Also I am not a member at a gun club all my shooting is done on crown land.
How much are the vent liners?
How much are the vent liners?
