QC provincial match ammo
- Thread starter philproulx
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- Location
- Eastern Ont.
wow, as long as you buy ammo from a match sponsor,
you dont have to pass chrony?
Who made up that rule?
the same loaded rounds do not fly the same out of two different barrels.
one gun may make it, and same bullet in another one fails, but it,s OK?
you dont have to pass chrony?
Who made up that rule?
the same loaded rounds do not fly the same out of two different barrels.
one gun may make it, and same bullet in another one fails, but it,s OK?
The official match ammo supplier is not the same as a sponsor...
But to answer your question...It was passed quite a few years back by the World Body (IPSC General Assembly)...to make it easier to get ammo into countries where it can be next to impossable (Ecudaor comes to mind)
Remember, this is an International Sport...
But to answer your question...It was passed quite a few years back by the World Body (IPSC General Assembly)...to make it easier to get ammo into countries where it can be next to impossable (Ecudaor comes to mind)
Remember, this is an International Sport...
- Location
- Halifax - NS
For ref rule - 5.8...
- Location
- Eastern Ont.
There have been people that have failed the QC Prov chrono in past years,
(i was there to see it)
but they had match "approved" ammo, so they were no problem.
They failed badddd!
I got pulled (shot for fun) on a level II match once because i was just barely under the Min. was told , you either make it or you dont.
Doesnt seem fair in my opinion in some cases.
(i was there to see it)
but they had match "approved" ammo, so they were no problem.
They failed badddd!
I got pulled (shot for fun) on a level II match once because i was just barely under the Min. was told , you either make it or you dont.
Doesnt seem fair in my opinion in some cases.
- Location
- Eastern Ont.
I guess no one can defend the rule argument any further?
was hoping there would be more debate on the subject.
I understand the principal of the rule, but what happens when
a small batch of ammo gets sent out to the public that is not up to par?
I know its not the shooters fault, but in reality, he/she does not make power factor.
Powder can stick in hoppers even in name brand ammo.
was hoping there would be more debate on the subject.
I understand the principal of the rule, but what happens when
a small batch of ammo gets sent out to the public that is not up to par?
I know its not the shooters fault, but in reality, he/she does not make power factor.
Powder can stick in hoppers even in name brand ammo.
There's nothing to debate or defend...the rules are the rules...
If you are not shooting match ammo...and you shoow up at a Level 3 without testing your ammo...who's fault is that?
If you are not shooting match ammo...and you shoow up at a Level 3 without testing your ammo...who's fault is that?
If you're shooting the official match ammo...you "don't have to pass chrono"
You have to go to chrono to make sure your equipment passes the requiremnets of your relevant division...but they do not take a sampling of your ammo...and you do not have to do chrono. You simply show them a copy of your reciept for the "official match ammo"
You have to go to chrono to make sure your equipment passes the requiremnets of your relevant division...but they do not take a sampling of your ammo...and you do not have to do chrono. You simply show them a copy of your reciept for the "official match ammo"
if im shooting match ammo i shouldnt have to test it for power factor
BUT if I fail the chrono with the match ammo then I will be really mad. Why don't they make a rule that says if you buy match ammo you don't have to chrono. This sport is getting very confusing. There should be better rules. Or maybe I SHOULD START READING THE RULES.
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I'm going to assume that 5.8.1.5 exists to allow the RO's to address a suspicion of cheating without the need to directly accuse the individual. More to the point, the ability of the RO to compell a second chrony test ought to stiffle any competitors inclination to pack two different types of ammo.
I don't find that IPSC shooters are out to cheat to gain an unfair advantage, but we all seem to try and work the rule book to the limit to get every legal advantage. 5.6.1.5 would seem to give the RO the ability to make sure that there isn't any signifigant change to a competitors equipment after he passes through the chronograph.
While it may exist in the rule book, does it really get used often? I doubt it.
I don't find that IPSC shooters are out to cheat to gain an unfair advantage, but we all seem to try and work the rule book to the limit to get every legal advantage. 5.6.1.5 would seem to give the RO the ability to make sure that there isn't any signifigant change to a competitors equipment after he passes through the chronograph.
While it may exist in the rule book, does it really get used often? I doubt it.
I believe you are correct - it probably rarely gets used. I was just pointing out that it can happen.
Some people are of the impression that match ammo is exempt from chrony. We're all given (or can download) the rule book. Occasionally people tend to ignore it when posting on these forums.
Well I will grant you that the rule is very poorly written. Always nice to see the word "usually" in a rule
...but....you are not required to chrono the match ammo when you show up at chrony (you still have to do everything else relevant to your division) ...just provide your offical reciept...but yes you could be called under 5.8.1.5...however...the exemption is there for a reason...and I would hate to be the RM that steps all over the origional intent.
You'd be more apt to find people trying to gain a sompetative advantage with theor own reloads...not with match ammo...
...but....you are not required to chrono the match ammo when you show up at chrony (you still have to do everything else relevant to your division) ...just provide your offical reciept...but yes you could be called under 5.8.1.5...however...the exemption is there for a reason...and I would hate to be the RM that steps all over the origional intent.
You'd be more apt to find people trying to gain a sompetative advantage with theor own reloads...not with match ammo...
I think we are forgetting the point of transportation and local law's on ammo. It's not so we don't have to chrony, some country's do not permit non residents to possess or transport certain amounts of ammo. you may not have choices in some cases, it's there to help competitors more than not. Power factors are barely enough as they stand, in my opinion.
Agreed...but making the chrony "non manditory" is the only reasonable way to make something like this work (the concept of match approved ammo) ...
