Need drawings of the Delisle carbine

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Yes, you read it. I need detailed drawings of the Delisle carbine.
Anything I can put my hands on will be welcome.
Now, first, I'll need to find a proper barrel that I could chamber in 45 Auto.
Who sells such blanks already rifled?
PP. :)
 
Perhaps I should contemplate the idea of building one using the 7,62x39mm cartridge.
Of course, the bullets would be of the gas-checked cast variety so I could have .312'' - .314'' diameter bullets.
PP.
 
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"...so I could have .312''..." Most commercial bullets for the .303 are .312". Hornady's for example. They make a .310" 123 grain SP specifically for the 7.62 x 39 too.
 
Mudpuppy has made extremely accurate reproductions.
If you can get a coppy of Skennerton's "The Delisle Commando Carbine", you can reverse engineer the external dimensions.
Fortunately, salvage grade SMLE rifles are readily available at low cost. The originals used salvaged, even DP SMLEs of various manufacture. The one hundred odd rifles were essentially one-offs when made.
Hardest single operaton is boring out the receiver from the front so that the barrel can extend back into the pre-existing boltway.
 
Perhaps I should contemplate the idea of building one using the 7,62x39mm cartridge.
Of course, the bullets would be of the gas-checked cast variety so I could have .312'' - .314'' diameter bullets.
PP.

The question there is with finding a magazine to your liking (there's a fair bit of discussion regarding this, if you do a bit of "snooping" ;))...

Here's a quick "food for thought" url in connection to sunray's post :) :

http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2006/myenfieldatemy45/index.asp
 
Yes, you read it. I need detailed drawings of the Delisle carbine.
Anything I can put my hands on will be welcome.
Not an easy thing to find, there are few copies of these floating around. It took me over two years to obtain mine (sorry I cannot share, as one of the conditions of my obtaining them was that I do not distribute them)so your best bet will be to reverse engineer from pictures.
But make sure you are using pictures of an original, there are a LOT of bad copies out there.

Now, first, I'll need to find a proper barrel that I could chamber in 45 Auto.
Who sells such blanks already rifled?
PP. :)
You need a .444" bore, .452" groove, 1-16" twist barrel, the export regulations in the US have cut off my supply and I am still looking for a new source.

Hardest single operaton is boring out the receiver from the front so that the barrel can extend back into the pre-existing boltway.
This is not so hard once you set everything up and do it a few times. I have had more problems with the bolt modifications, specifically in boring out the bolt and re-threading it after shortening. Some of those bolts are HARD and like to destroy tooling!!

Mike (jessum?) on weapons build guild built one. He has pictures and some drawing on his site as well. Good luck
His build is better than a lot of the reproductions out there but it is still not historically accurate. He put more effort into it than most people do but has still missed some things.
I think part of the problem was that he was using pictures of the Valkyrie Arms replicas, they were pretty bad.
His measurements on some things are also off and he does not use the proper threads in his bolt modifications which will lead to problems later.


Building a Delisle is a project that is not easy, even the original armorers that put them together described them as an absolute nightmare!!
 
Thanks MudPuppy! I guess I'll have to go a different way.
Since I cannot build it true to specs because it was a silent firearm by design, I'll have to make do with an imitation.
Then If some small screw threads aren't to historic specs, it won't be so bad anyway.
I have to agree with you: when someone is engaged in the task of replicating a Delisle, I guess it can be a pretty tough machinist's test!
PP. :)
 
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