Rough Handling 1911??

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Hey guys.. Quick question as im new to handguns. Last week I was at the range trying out my new STI spartan and I got a jam, so I did what I was taught which is to drop the mag and rack the slide 2-3 times quickly then reload. Anywho I had some guy come up and tell me thats rough on the gun and it will break it. Is this true or is buddy out to lunch?????
 
buddy is out to mars.
how is cycling the action rough on the gun? :confused:
it might depend on how quick you did it, but even so, firing a bullet cycles the action much faster
 
I wouldn't drop the slide on an empty chamber but cycling it by hand back and forth is fine. How else can you clear a 1911 or any auto for that matter. I see guys at the gun shop dropping the slidestop slamming the slide into battery on an empty chamber and I just cringe.
 
madhatter308 said:
Hey guys.. Quick question as im new to handguns. Last week I was at the range trying out my new STI spartan and I got a jam, so I did what I was taught which is to drop the mag and rack the slide 2-3 times quickly then reload. Anywho I had some guy come up and tell me thats rough on the gun and it will break it. Is this true or is buddy out to lunch?????
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Did you have a stage 3 stoppage and need to clear the mag and cycle the pistol three times? If not, then a simple tap & rack to clear before firing the pistol again should suffice.
 
Thanks for the replys guys. The gun stovepiped but the round got stuck on something so I racked it a couple times and buddy comes up an says that racking it muliple times will break something. I got REALLLLY confused and gave him a really blank stare because I was always told to be decently rough with any firearm but i ignored him an went about my day. PS: handguns are wayyyyy to much fun
 
Your kidding right? I rack and slap the #### out of my Wilson Combat and it loves it.

Did the guy also have mittens on and a apron, passing out cookies? He kinda reminded me of my mom :)
 
OZZ said:
Your kidding right? I rack and slap the s**t out of my Wilson Combat and it loves it.

Did the guy also have mittens on and a apron, passing out cookies? He kinda reminded me of my mom :)
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Absolutely killed me! Ha Ha. I don't know who this guy this, or what he's been reading. What the h*ll did he expect you to do? Slowly pry back the slide, remove the cartridge by hand, and then ease the slide forward? Because taking 3 extra shots wouldn't damage your gun more than hand racking it??

I'm not going to act as though i'm a pro, but so I won't say anything. Nay, I have nothing to say. No words. No words.
 
Designer 1911's. Ha ha. 1911 is a work horse. Kills me when I see these 'pretty' guns locked up and drooled over. I have all the respect in the world for the guys that run their Wilson's and Nighthawks, hard. I see a ton of guys with their blued ponies locked up. Idea: Take them from the safe, get them park'd, and run them like it's WWII. A new Colt on the way, I plan on throwing a new trigger, MSH, thumb safety, and maybe G10 grips, then running it like it should be: Hard and fast. Well, maybe not fast, but most certainly hard. Ha Ha.

Don't these owners know that the pretty ones like it rough?!
 
dannyair said:
I wouldn't drop the slide on an empty chamber but cycling it by hand back and forth is fine. How else can you clear a 1911 or any auto for that matter. I see guys at the gun shop dropping the slidestop slamming the slide into battery on an empty chamber and I just cringe.
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Why?
 
TBMH said:
Why?
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It batters the pistol to drop the slide on a 1911 on an empty chamber. I see guys doing it, usually at the gunshop counter, because they think it's cool. Hit the slide stop and let the slide bang forward on an empty chamber. [Hint: It's called a slide stop for a reason... ;)]

Makes me just want to slap them up side the head when I see them do it.... :eek:

Anyway, letting the slide bang shut on an empty chamber will most certainly bugger up any sort of trigger job you might have had done on your 1911, too.

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NAA.
 
NAA said:
It batters the pistol to drop the slide on a 1911 on an empty chamber. I see guys doing it, usually at the gunshop counter, because they think it's cool. Hit the slide stop and let the slide bang forward on an empty chamber. [Hint: It's called a slide stop for a reason... ;)]

Makes me just want to slap them up side the head when I see them do it.... :eek:

Anyway, letting the slide bang shut on an empty chamber will most certainly bugger up any sort of trigger job you might have had done on your 1911, too.

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NAA.
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It is amazing how many people do not know this. When you tell them not to they come back with "so when I was trained to do that I guess my training was wrong?" Yeah it was ####head, I wish all "trainers" would explain that it ok with a loaded gun not an empty one.
 
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Originally Posted by NAA
It batters the pistol to drop the slide on a 1911 on an empty chamber. I see guys doing it, usually at the gunshop counter, because they think it's cool. Hit the slide stop and let the slide bang forward on an empty chamber. [Hint: It's called a slide stop for a reason... ]
Makes me just want to slap them up side the head when I see them do it....
Anyway, letting the slide bang shut on an empty chamber will most certainly bugger up any sort of trigger job you might have had done on your 1911, too.
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TBMH said:
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You can "drop" the slide on an empty chamber. Just squeeze the trigger when you do it. This way, the disconnector is still disconnected and the sear/hammer contact is not "battered" and chance of hammer falling is minimized. This is what happens when you fire the 1911. Your trigger is still pulled back as the slide slams forward.

Makes one uncomfortable squeezing the trigger through this procedure, but I cringe everytime I operate the decocker on my Ruger P90 or Norinco NP58.:D
 
Whats so different about locking the slide back inserting a mag and releasing the slide lock to chamber your first round and doing the same thing without a round in the magazine?

Isnt this why shok buffers are used?
 
Yes, I`ve read that same response before and it seems its more of a all over bounce effect that they are worrying about right? I would think "bullet proof" parts like Wilson use should be able to take a bit of rough housing without falling appart.

The idea of holding the hammer and depressing the trigger when releasing the slide lock on a empty chamber is a safety/function check right? It shows that the gun will not just go off when racked without pressing the trigger.

I`ll try to baby it a bit more empty but the legend of the super tuff 1911 just got pooped on for me.....
 
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