Rude land owners. Here we go again.

RoscoeT

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I just got home from scouting a great goose shoot. The barley field they were feeding and also found the day hole they were using.

The folks who owned the day hole were very nice but said they had too many hunters leaving gates open and making a mess so they don't allow no more hunting. :(

The farmer who owned the field, just said "NO!" and slammed the door in my face :mad:

I am super polite and know how to ask for permission, I get positive results frequently, but this guy... wow.

He was within his rights, but that don't make it right. IMHO.
 
Probably took him away from his toast and tea...:p

Or maybe he has had 75 people knock on his door this week looking to hunt...
 
RoscoeT, would you mine giving an example of what you say when asking for permission? As per my other thread, I'm looking to do some goose hunting, and don't know where to go. I've scouted a few fields that are always full of geese, but am pretty hesitant to go ask for permission... Any tips on how to word your request would be appreciated. Thanks.

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It is his land but that is no reason for him to be rude. If the guy does not want hunting on his land, all he has to do is post no hunting and don't ask. Simple.
 
I think the funniest for was me I was scouting out a 160 acre field with a rifle slung over my should "just in case".

All of a sudden I see an ATV come out of the brush and the guy waves me over. The moment I get up to him he starts ripping a strip off me stating Im in a no hunting area. Starts going up one side of me and down the other, not letting me even get in a word, and finally ends with threatening to call the Conservation Officers on me.

Finally I ask him what he means a no hunting area (thinking maybe I missed something in the regs) and he states Im on private property and that Im trespassing. I ask him if he knows who's property Im on and he just states "no". So I tell him I do know who owns the property... my father....
 
drache said:
I think the funniest for was me I was scouting out a 160 acre field with a rifle slung over my should "just in case".

All of a sudden I see an ATV come out of the brush and the guy waves me over. The moment I get up to him he starts ripping a strip off me stating Im in a no hunting area. Starts going up one side of me and down the other, not letting me even get in a word, and finally ends with threatening to call the Conservation Officers on me.

Finally I ask him what he means a no hunting area (thinking maybe I missed something in the regs) and he states Im on private property and that Im trespassing. I ask him if he knows who's property Im on and he just states "no". So I tell him I do know who owns the property... my father....
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Priceless.:owned:
 
Do not give up on looking and trying. Always offer meat to landowner if granted access. It is hard to find good places, but keep trying you will turn up a lead sooner or later.
 
Maybe the guy was having a bad day!! I've been reading about bad landowners since the start of seasons all across the country. Sounds to me like we are all a$$holes if we dare say no to a hunter. I hate to break it to you but it is OUR land not yours. If you want it cut a check and have at it. Rant over.

Maybe the guy is going to shoot them himself. Maybe he's had 50 calls. Maybe he just doesn't like hunters. Maybe you interrupted the first piece of tail he's had in six months who knows why he was grumpy. It is HIS house and HIS land. Get over it.
 
As a land owner myself,I can see where he is coming from.I have hunted the same area for the last 20+ year's(when I did not own land in the area),At the start 99% of the land owners were great.It is kind of a out of the way area(Remote)As more new so called hunters and the old that have hunted the area for years without premission keep growing things have changed a great deal.I post my land no hunting or trespassing without permission.In almost 4 yrs I have not had one person ask to hunt on my land.But I have seen lots of guys trying to hunt my land and tell me they have permission.
Not to mention cut fence,driving in the hay field etc.
 
It's funny. The stranger asks if he can hunt geese on his field, farmer says no and stranger thinks that was rude.
The stranger probably lives in some organized subdivision. Is he always polite to a stranger knocking on his door and asking for something?
 
Well maybe next time you should show up with a big bag of homemade jerky or sausage before you ask for permission. Guys would always ask for permisson on our fields and say something like "Ill give you a few geese" or "Ill bring you some sausage", but you would never see them again. So now when people ask for permission I tell them no, escpecially if its a bunch of americans. These americans come down here and are paying someone to take them on a guided hunt, why shouldn't I get a small reward for letting these guys hunt on our land? Sometimes I will go for a ride on the quad or a walk in the morning and will see hunters set up on our land, totally pi$$es me off because they didnt make an attempt to ask for permission! So a few shots with the .300 in the hills or make a pass with the dirtbike and the birds wont land for the whole morning.
 
A simple NO is fine. Having the door slammed in his face is just plain rude. We all have bad days but I don't take it out on a stranger.
 
I grew up in Northern Alberta and had the luxury of having a lake very close by and to which we owned some of the fields surrounding it. Added to this there was a Fish & Wildlife feeding station on the lake and our property was just outside the limit that you couldn't hunt on. Needless to say great hunting some years. We had countless numbers of hunters drive into our yard and ask to hunt. Lot's of time my father would allow them but sometimes depending on how they looked or asked, or the modd he was in, he said no. Too many times we found shotgun shells dropped on the grain swaths or the ground. Or times where guys were too lazy to walk from the road and saw no problem in driving over all the swaths to get closer to the lake. Incidents like that just ruined it for the next guy.

Lots of guys were good and would drop off something for my old man like a 26 or a pack of smoked salmon so he'd remember them and they could come back next year. I would hesitate to advise anyone to offer the landowner meat you shot as a gift. Being that close to a hunting area, if he wants any, he will proably go and get it himself. We used to hunt alot and our freezer was always full of wild duck. The last thing you could do to impress my old man was to give him some more.

It really comes down to what impression the landowner got of hunters from the guys before you so if he's grumpy and says no even if you were very polite, it's likely that the guys before you did something to piss him off. Perhaps you could try by saying you saw a bunch of geese eating his crop and you'd be happy to go and scare them off. Tell him that you will be very careful not to drop any cartridges and will pick up all your empties and you won't drive or walk on the swaths. If you reassure him before he asks he just might be a little more receptive.
 
Try asking about getting hunting permission weeks or months in advance of the season's opening. Flocks of "Last Minute Charlies" showing up at the door tend to aggravate most folk.
 
Want some good advice from someone who has access to hundreds of properties?

Go in May or June and scout crops, not geese! Most guys get tired of everyone showing up and asking when they see birds at seasons start. This is busy time for people who have to harvest crops for a living and they just don't have the time it takes to make a repore with you. Introduce yourself with a handshake and tell them why you are there. Don't dress in camo or old beater clothes full of holes and shirts with obnoxious funnies. Be polite and don't be in a hurry to leave, stay and spend some time shooting the breeze, most farmers love to talk shop, learn something about it. Ask what his rules are, tell him you will stop by when you spot birds to double check it's ok. Ask if they enjoy game meat and if they say no ask what you may give in return to show your appreciation. And be sincere, we can all spot a phoney or an opportunist a mile away. I have turned many no's to yes's over the years. Go back every year, sometimes persistence pays off. And don't be afraid to provide references from other area farmers if you know some whose lands you hunt. And alawyas obey their rules, clean up behind yourself, we even pick up the wads from the shotshells as well as the empty hulls and pay close attention to how gates are closed properly ans where safe shooting lanes are.And we always go to the door and say thank you after!
 
H4831 said:
It's funny. The stranger asks if he can hunt geese on his field, farmer says no and stranger thinks that was rude.
The stranger probably lives in some organized subdivision. Is he always polite to a stranger knocking on his door and asking for something?
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Better re-read the post..........the owner did more than just say no. The land owner obviously has every right to say no..........the way he comes across with it makes him an idiot.
 
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