Rude land owners. Here we go again.

[jjpldotca]

I got tired of drunk hunters coming onto my property with atvs, so I marked it red dots, put up signs and most importantly, a large steel gate.
I know there's plenty of good hunters out there, but I only encounter the idiotic ones.

 

[RoscoeT]

I usually wait until I find where the geese are feeding and then get permission. Only once have I had a rude "No". Usually people are pretty good about it. Don't be discouraged.

That's the way it is with geese. You can't really try and get permission on the whole county. The geese were in his quarter today. After a couple of days someplace else. For those who say that I should have asked this guy last spring think about that.

 

[RoscoeT]

You think that it is "super polite" to knock on the door of a stranger to ask him to do you a favour?

I would never cold call a stranger - or knock on his door - to ask permission to hunt.

Use an intermediary, or write a letter, first. That could be considered polite.

Knock on my door without an invitation, or call me when I don't know you, just to ask me for something, is probably not going to get the response that you desired.

Never new that folks in the big country were less friendly than city people, seems strange.

This is not deer hunting. It's geese. In his field a few days and then miles away days later. You're method would not work unless you were really lucky and found a super sweet spot with enough feed to keep them still for a while. Even then they will move around.

It's funny but I get lots of "YES" using my methods. The "No" I get usually is polite and followed with an explanation of idiots doing all kinds of stupid stuff.

If you think that it's rude to introduce yourself to a stranger and ask for nothing more from him than a nod of the head you likely have lots of problems dealing with people.

Yes, a nod of the head is all I am asking for since they are not his geese.

This is the first time I had a bad run and wanted to share my experience.

This thread proves that just like there are lots of idiot hunters there are just as many idiot land owners

 

[trevj]

Did the guy claim they were his geese? Really?

Didn't think so. But you keep bringing up that they are not his geese.

It's not about whose geese they are. Esp. since they are the Crown's geese, until they are legally harvested. It's about the ownership of the property, and the right to decide who can use it.

You sound like the NDP, dude. On and on.

Feelin' the love? If you want to find sympathy, it's between s**t and syphilis, in the dictionary.

Cheers
Trev

 

[Hoser-eh]

Seriously??? They do that on your steps? How do they try to intimidate you? Unbelievable...

One drives up, knocks on the door, & says "You better lock those goats in the barn if you don't want them to get shot. I'll be hunting in your woods. No hunting you say? How'd you like to see my gun?"

Another two dudes: Cocks head toward pasture & grins at buddy: "Betcha one of them cows is worth a lot of money, huh? heehee?"

When the camera comes out, they can't leave quick enough.

 

[lucky07]

You don't suppose it's Harvest time and that guy has been working 18 hour days for the last few weeks do you? Farmers are angry creatures during Harvest.

there we go... that pretty well sums it up.

Nasty mean tired sums a #####es is more like it. 18 hours a day ... ha! try 20-22 hrs a day. Not the time to be bugging 'em. If I had just worked 20 hours and had just sat down for the 1st time all day in my comfy chair you bet you're ass I'd be raging when someone knocked on the door. Doesn't matter who it is really. Been there done that ... not the hunters (or whoever elses fault) but LEAVE ME ALONE lol.

One drives up, knocks on the door, & says "You better lock those goats in the barn if you don't want them to get shot. I'll be hunting in your woods. No hunting you say? How'd you like to see my gun?"

Another two dudes: Cocks head toward pasture & grins at buddy: "Betcha one of them cows is worth a lot of money, huh? heehee?"

When the camera comes out, they can't leave quick enough.

Wow ...just Wow. Don't even know what to say to that one.

 

[crazydave]

Lifes like that some people have bad experiances with hunters that turn them sour towards hunters you don't know what he has dealt with. I know one guy who owned property and let archery hunters on his land, these "hunters" saw his friendly alaskan malamute dogs which were quiet gentle dog's and decided they were wolves, they pulled rifles out of their trucks and shot his two dog's which were wearing bright colored harness's without taking the due dilligence to make sure of what they were shooting at.

In short shrug off what happened and ask elsewhere no reason to call the guy a idiot because you know squat about the person

 

[RoscoeT]

Lifes like that some people have bad experiances with hunters ...
In short shrug off what happened and ask elsewhere no reason to call the guy a idiot because you know squat about the person

It's totally forgotten. I just get a kick out of some of these guys.

 

[RoscoeT]

Did the guy claim they were his geese? Really?

Didn't think so. But you keep bringing up that they are not his geese.

Cheers
Trev

Who keeps brining that up?

My point of that statement is that everyone on here says that I am asking him for something. As though I were taking something of his for my self which is not the case. That is all.

 

[Karl]

You should do better homework, woodchopper.

Most folks that own land in Alberta, do not own the subsurface rights, but many do.

Some of them (or their ancestors) were smart enough to pay the extra couple dollars an acre that it cost to own those rights, when the land was homesteaded. I knew one guy that became an instant (nearly) millionaire as a result of an oil company discovering that his family still owned the rights to some land they had been pumping oil out from under for some several dozen years.

In BC, it depends on when the land became privately owned, too. Some of the lad I am part owner of, has mineral rights attached to the title, some does not.

Never looked in to it in SK when I was there, but I'm pretty sure there are some grandfathered in rights in all the provinces. Devil's in the details.

Cheers
Trev

My Grandfather paid taxes on mineral rights near Okotoks right up till he died. Our Crafty Tories made them non-transferable so the Gov got them back after his death. As least that the story I got.

 

[350 Mag]

I don't understand what you insinuate about rules. How can it be illegal to charge someone for hunting on YOUR OWN land. SO it is illegal for me to open a hunting reserve? We have them in Ontario.

I also don't understand how someone claiming damages for crops, but won't won't let you hunt have anything to do with each other.

I don't understand why you think it is hypocritical for a landowner to hunt on his own land, but to deny you the right. I own my own home, and I refuse to let you live in it even when I'm away on business.

You disgust me. You understand nothign about property rights. Go find a communist country to live in. You ask for government to solve the problem of others owning land? If you approached me to hunt on my land, I would walk to the nearest jewelry store buy the biggest gaudiest and spikiest rings I can find, return to my home and PIMP slap you with my Liberace hand Komrade.

The simple fact is.



My taxpaying dollars are paid to farmers so they can get $10,000's + /quarter section that Elk make a few tracks and beds in???

What about MY rights as a taxpayer???.....oh right that doesn't matter does it? The Govenments money comes from a money tree that never runs out?

These same farmers have their own little clique of buddies that hunt the same land year after year and happily harvest trophies year after year.(laughing all the way to the bank). Denying all other hunters access. (some even charge for access...which in Sask is illegal) The Elk that are there are WILD Elk, they do NOT belong to the farmer just because they are on his land?

Gimme a friggin break.

 

[bronco_mudder]

The simple fact is.



My taxpaying dollars are paid to farmers so they can get $10,000's + /quarter section that Elk make a few tracks and beds in???

What about MY rights as a taxpayer???.....oh right that doesn't matter does it? The Govenments money comes from a money tree that never runs out?

These same farmers have their own little clique of buddies that hunt the same land year after year and happily harvest trophies year after year.(laughing all the way to the bank). Denying all other hunters access. (some even charge for access...which in Sask is illegal) The Elk that are there are WILD Elk, they do NOT belong to the farmer just because they are on his land?

Gimme a friggin break.

If that's your biggest complaint, then what about all other socially funded programs? What you speak of is just another government subsidized program. The farmer pays taxes on that land every year, not to mention income tax on what he earns....he has also put out the money to purchase the land. Buy your own land, then you can have your own "clique" as you like to put it.

 

[warrenb]

I think the funniest for was me I was scouting out a 160 acre field with a rifle slung over my should "just in case".

All of a sudden I see an ATV come out of the brush and the guy waves me over. The moment I get up to him he starts ripping a strip off me stating Im in a no hunting area. Starts going up one side of me and down the other, not letting me even get in a word, and finally ends with threatening to call the Conservation Officers on me.

Finally I ask him what he means a no hunting area (thinking maybe I missed something in the regs) and he states Im on private property and that Im trespassing. I ask him if he knows who's property Im on and he just states "no". So I tell him I do know who owns the property... my father....

Similar thing happened to a local farmer here a while back. Told to get off his own land by one of my retarded nieghbours. he told the farmer he looked after the property for the owner.

 

[warrenb]

I just got home from scouting a great goose shoot. The barley field they were feeding and also found the day hole they were using.

The folks who owned the day hole were very nice but said they had too many hunters leaving gates open and making a mess so they don't allow no more hunting.

The farmer who owned the field, just said "NO!" and slammed the door in my face

I am super polite and know how to ask for permission, I get positive results frequently, but this guy... wow.

He was within his rights, but that don't make it right. IMHO.

If I go to a complete strangers door, unsolicited, and ask them to give me something, I believe they are entitled to be as cordial or as rude as they feel like.

 

[350 Mag]

If that's your biggest complaint, then what about all other socially funded programs? What you speak of is just another government subsidized program. The farmer pays taxes on that land every year, not to mention income tax on what he earns....he has also put out the money to purchase the land. Buy your own land, then you can have your own "clique" as you like to put it.

The point is...

The Farmers still harvest the crop and make 90% of the money + they get the BIG government check for crop damage.

It is real neccesary to hand out $25,000 every year to the farmer out of taxpayer's pockets when hunters could control the crop damage problem if they were allowed access?

The Farmers I am complaining about are abusing the system and they do want that Elk coming back year after year so they can get a trophy or illegally charge others to gain access to their land, and get a nice fat little check to boot.

Not all farmers are bad....just the ones abusing the system.

 

[snowhunter]

There is a B.C. government program in place, in which hunters, in close cooperation with landowner/ranchers, participate in a culling of cow elks, from limited entry hunt lottery, to special "senior hunts" for those over 65 years of age.

However, this program has attracted so many seniors in some areas, like south of Elko, that they have spooked off all the cow elks, by camping along the known elk trails, days before the hunts opens, and the hunter succes rate among those senior hunters is therefore very low.

The oldest hunter I encountered on these senior was 82 years old, as well as meeting a still working rancher, who was 85 years old

 

[trevj]

Who keeps brining that up?

My point of that statement is that everyone on here says that I am asking him for something. As though I were taking something of his for my self which is not the case. That is all.

You brought it up.

You were too, asking him for something.

You were asking to be able to use HIS property. He said no.

Boo Hoo.

Don't like his answer. Too bad. Buy your own land. It's not about whose geese they are.

Your fault. You should have done better groundwork before the season started.

And before you think I'm a total Grinch, I'm a dead cert pushover for a couple boxes of Girl Guide Cookies, or anything being sold as a Scouts or Cubs fundraiser. I usually donate for school bottle drives, and run about 50/50 on whether any canvassers for various organizations will get any money from me, if I have any on hand.

But I did at one time offer to burn a guys truck down to the ground with him in it, if he didn't get it the #### out of my driveway, ASAP. Effin pushy door to door salesman, flogging frozen food out of a freezer in the back of a beater truck, that was.

Quit whining. Go hunting. Tell us about that instead.

Cheer
Trev

 

[Vincent Vega]

The point is...

The Farmers still harvest the crop and make 90% of the money + they get the BIG government check for crop damage.

It is real neccesary to hand out $25,000 every year to the farmer out of taxpayer's pockets when hunters could control the crop damage problem if they were allowed access?

The Farmers I am complaining about are abusing the system and they do want that Elk coming back year after year so they can get a trophy or illegally charge others to gain access to their land, and get a nice fat little check to boot.

Not all farmers are bad....just the ones abusing the system.

This made me laugh.

You've just made it clear that you don't know much about this topic, so you should probably sit this one out.

Oh, and it's "cheque", not check.

 

[trevj]

This made me laugh.

You've just made it clear that you don't know much about this topic, so you should probably sit this one out.

Oh, and it's "cheque", not check.

Pretty much covers my thoughts on his thoughts, too.

Cheers
Trev

 

[archie126]

The simple fact is.



My taxpaying dollars are paid to farmers so they can get $10,000's + /quarter section that Elk make a few tracks and beds in???

What about MY rights as a taxpayer???.....oh right that doesn't matter does it? The Govenments money comes from a money tree that never runs out?

These same farmers have their own little clique of buddies that hunt the same land year after year and happily harvest trophies year after year.(laughing all the way to the bank). Denying all other hunters access. (some even charge for access...which in Sask is illegal) The Elk that are there are WILD Elk, they do NOT belong to the farmer just because they are on his land?

Gimme a friggin break.

Wow!!!!!!!