We need to pick up 2(probably 3) USGI bolts(Not TRW) and I am wondering where the best place to get them would be? I have family living in Arizona, so getting them in the states is a viable option, but I am just looking for a reliable source anywhere.
M14 USGI bolts
- Thread starter jessekf
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Any idea where I could get more info on the restrictions? I would love to find a legal way to bring stuff up.
Yes, but simply calling an M14 bolt an M1A bolt won't get you anything but grief. It worked with wood stocks (Boyds) because there is a difference between the two, I suppose you could bring Springfield parts across without too much of an issue, but they would cost as much or more than GI and probably aren't as good as what you're replacing (depending on what part it is).
I fail to understand the whole USGI bolt craze........what the hell is wrong with the Norinco bolts????
A used U.S. bolt could be just as bad fitting, so why hasn't the importer's of the Norc's and new Poly's just gotten in a s**t load of never fitted bolts, for those who are rebarrelling?
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A used U.S. bolt could be just as bad fitting, so why hasn't the importer's of the Norc's and new Poly's just gotten in a s**t load of never fitted bolts, for those who are rebarrelling?
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Springfield won't?........considering I see brand new Springfield rifles on the self.
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Springfield isn't famous for warranty service for Canadians either
Remember that these Norc and Poly M14's (so are the USGI M14's) are designed as BATTLE rifles and bolt slop is engineered in. This allows bolt swapping in the field.
Many Poly and Norc M14's exhibit from 6 thou to 15 thou case stretch. This stretching works the 'handloaded' brass excessively thus reducing the case life (read: head separation) to less that a half dozen firings (don't tempt fate ). So many reloaders and match shooters want a USGI bolt that can/may/will drop in directly and reduce your brass stretching to 0 thou (no joking), and now you have a tight close to SAAMI 1.630" match dimension'ed chamber. Sometimes lapping of the bolt lugs is necessary, often it's not needed for a tight chamber fit similar to bolt rifle.
I've got TRW in my Norc M14 that allows about 1 thou (0.001") bolt slop. This same bolt won't drop into my Poly M14 or zxcvbn's Poly M14. We will need about 2 thousandths inch of lapping, so I won't remove metal JUST to fit this bolt into my Poly or Norc. I'll just leave things alone and shoot my Poly M14 that shows bolt slop of 6 thou to 10 thou. And still I don't mind that bolt slop or case stretch since my Poly does not get out lots. The Norc M14 gets the nod so I can full length size my brass with a minimum of case stretch.
Hope all this helps you M14 lovers SAVE your money! Don't go nucking futs trying to obtain a USGI bolt!
Barney
Many Poly and Norc M14's exhibit from 6 thou to 15 thou case stretch. This stretching works the 'handloaded' brass excessively thus reducing the case life (read: head separation) to less that a half dozen firings (don't tempt fate
). So many reloaders and match shooters want a USGI bolt that can/may/will drop in directly and reduce your brass stretching to 0 thou (no joking), and now you have a tight close to SAAMI 1.630" match dimension'ed chamber. Sometimes lapping of the bolt lugs is necessary, often it's not needed for a tight chamber fit similar to bolt rifle.I've got TRW in my Norc M14 that allows about 1 thou (0.001") bolt slop. This same bolt won't drop into my Poly M14 or zxcvbn's Poly M14. We will need about 2 thousandths inch of lapping, so I won't remove metal JUST to fit this bolt into my Poly or Norc. I'll just leave things alone and shoot my Poly M14 that shows bolt slop of 6 thou to 10 thou. And still I don't mind that bolt slop or case stretch since my Poly does not get out lots. The Norc M14 gets the nod so I can full length size my brass with a minimum of case stretch.
Hope all this helps you M14 lovers SAVE your money! Don't go nucking futs trying to obtain a USGI bolt!
Barney
"...need to pick up..." Why?
"...info on the restrictions?..." It's a U.S. law. M14 parts are on their 'Restricted for Export" list. Requires a U.S. Federal export permit that requires a Canadian import permit to get. However, you can't apply for one, yourself. Only U.S. companies/citizens with a U.S. Federal exporter's licence. Takes several months.
Issue bolt's aren't cheap either. Gunparts, for example, wants $131.25US for a stripped bolt, when they have 'em. That'd be just the bolt body. No other parts on it. As in no extractor, ejector or firing pin, etc.
"...info on the restrictions?..." It's a U.S. law. M14 parts are on their 'Restricted for Export" list. Requires a U.S. Federal export permit that requires a Canadian import permit to get. However, you can't apply for one, yourself. Only U.S. companies/citizens with a U.S. Federal exporter's licence. Takes several months.
Issue bolt's aren't cheap either. Gunparts, for example, wants $131.25US for a stripped bolt, when they have 'em. That'd be just the bolt body. No other parts on it. As in no extractor, ejector or firing pin, etc.
I have put thousands of rounds through my norinco and poly tech rifles over the last 10years and they work fine. The only changes I made were: GI glass stock,SS spring guide and a new made spring guide pin in US GI length to go with GI stock.
I think it's got little to do with what can be imported, to here, but what they'll allow to be exported from there.
