Guns on an ATV?

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Planning on going for a big trip tomorrow w/ about 5-6 guys on ATVs... Probably looking at over 100km or so.

Since grouse, and most other small game opened here today, I have a question about taking a shotgun and/or .22 with me.

If I want to strap them down on the front/back rack of my quad, do I have to have them trigger locked? I'd like to have them readily accessible incase the odd bird shows its self... I don't have any gun boots, or holders, or anything, so they'd probably just be straped to my pack on the quad.

Am I able, once I'm out in the bush on the trails, so have them loaded (not readied) and unlocked? Or unloaded and not locked? Or would they have to be locked, and unloaded, so that the grouse/rabbit have a fair chance?

thanks for any help...
 
In Ont., unloaded and unlocked is OK...just don't walk away from your ATV leaving it i the rack (you will get charged if caught).

It's the same rules and reg's as transporting it in your car/truck.
 
Am I able, once I'm out in the bush on the trails, so have them loaded (not readied) and unlocked?
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Federal firearms laws prohibit loaded guns on/in a motor vehicle,and your atv is a motor vehicle.Ammunition in the magazine is considered loaded.
 
*** if magazine is inserted into the firearm....not when seperate.

Just to clarify.
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Correct you are.If the magazine is in no way attached to the firearm,you can have the magazine loaded.In the case of the A-Bolt,and other Browning rifles,the loaded magazine may not be attached to the floorplate,even if the floorplate is open.
 
Be very careful with the gun. You being the only one with a firearm, some of them may actually be anti gun, or at least a bit nervous around a gun.
As a gun owner, you represent all of us, so please handle the firearm in a way that will do us proud, and maybe convince someone that guns are OK.
 
Everyone comming are all Infantiers, we're from the same Battalion. So I think we're good to go on that issue. But a very good, and valid point that I will keep in mind for the future.

Thanks for the input.
 
Unless you are leading the pack, you might not see much game.... although you could hang back of the group..... but could be dusty. ;)

If grouse, you likely have more time than you think to load up.
Not sure with rabbits. They probably disappear quick.

100k isn't too far of a trip, (I get about 120 miles per tank) but make sure you all carry enough to get home....

have fun!
 
If it gets dark it needs to be cased.
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Perhaps this is an Ontario law,but it isn't a federal firearms requirement,and it isn't the law in some other provinces.

You can leave it on the atv as long as your with-in visual site of it.
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That depends on your definition of "unattended",and whether it is in a locked case or compartment on the atv.

100k isn't too far of a trip, (I get about 120 miles per tank) but make sure you all carry enough to get home...
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Either you have a huge tank,or you aren't in very tough conditions.In deep mud,muskeg,or sand,I have yet to see any atv make it 100km on a tank,let alone 200km.
 
Just got back... Did just a tad over 80km... Had 4 quads and a side by side. Wicked trip. Only game I saw was a dead beaver lying right where their dam broke. Last time we went through the water was about 3 feet higher. Must have just happend.

Was about a 5 hour trip. That included an hour of getting people unstuck in one spot. Going by my gas gauge, I went through 2/3 of a tank, maybe a bit less in those 80km. I have a Honda TRX 420. Bike's brand new (less then 1000km) My wife has the same bike, and gets alot better fuel economy then me. Mine you I weigh a hell of a lot more then her, and I drive a little crazier.

Going back out in an hour or so for the first grouse hunt of the year!

Again, thanks for the answers to my questions fellas.



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beefman said:
In Ont., unloaded and unlocked is OK...just don't walk away from your ATV leaving it i the rack (you will get charged if caught).

It's the same rules and reg's as transporting it in your car/truck.
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So if you have two guns and you decide to walk for awhile (one for chickens and one for whatever else) you gotta pack both of them? Even if the one gun is left unloaded on the ATV?

What does this rule even begin to accomplish? People stealing your unloaded gun on your quad?

Im so glad we dont have that rule. I would love to fight that ticket in court!
 
It's a federal rule.


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm

Leaving Any Class of Firearm in an Unattended Vehicle

* Lock non-restricted firearms and locked containers carrying restricted or prohibited firearms in the trunk or in a similar lockable compartment.

* If the vehicle does not have a trunk or lockable compartment, put firearms and firearm containers out of sight inside the vehicle and lock the vehicle.

* If you are in a remote wilderness area and cannot lock your non-restricted firearms inside your vehicle, unload them and put them out of sight. Attach a secure locking device unless they are needed for predator control.
 
So if you have two guns and you decide to walk for awhile (one for chickens and one for whatever else) you gotta pack both of them? Even if the one gun is left unloaded on the ATV?
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Like with any other motor vehicle,you can leave a firearm unattended in/on a vehicle if it is out of sight and in a locked vehicle,or in a locked compartment of the vehicle.
 
Quote: 100k isn't too far of a trip, (I get about 120 miles per tank) but make sure you all carry enough to get home... .
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Either you have a huge tank,or you aren't in very tough conditions.In deep mud,muskeg,or sand,I have yet to see any atv make it 100km on a tank,let alone 200km
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Don't have a huge tank in the 660 Grizzly, but I went from Green lake to Deadman falls and back on one tank of gas.... two other guys with the same machine also went.
We were pretty dry by the time we got home, having switched to the "reserve" tank as well. It was GPS'd at almost 120 miles. But no, conditions are not tough as you mentioned. Mainly trails or FSR's around here.
 
Don't have a huge tank in the 660 Grizzly, but I went from Green lake to Deadman falls and back on one tank of gas.... two other guys with the same machine also went.
We were pretty dry by the time we got home, having switched to the "reserve" tank as well. It was GPS'd at almost 120 miles. But no, conditions are not tough as you mentioned. Mainly trails or FSR's around here.
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I have a 700 Grizzly myself,and I can pretty much empty a tank in 100km in muskeg,or mud.With the stock tires,and on easy trails,it does do much better,but we seldom ride on easy trails,and hardly anyone rides with stock tires,because they are pretty much useless in muskeg or mud.
 
I ride with stock tires... :( Only because my bikes new, so I might aswell use 'em, and wear em out. Will probably replace w/ Mud Lites when the time comes. Lost an A-Arm guard today too... Was just a plastic one. Anyone know a good supplier for ATV parts in Canada?
 
I ride with stock tires... Only because my bikes new, so I might aswell use 'em, and wear em out.
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We only use the stock tires for riding on the sand roads when heading up north.In the muskeg or deep mud, you either use better tires,or get used to winching.Be warned that mud lites are very prone to sidewall punctures.

Anyone know a good supplier for ATV parts in Canada?
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Parts canada,royal distributors,moto van
 
The Mudlite xtrs are more durable,but quite a bit heavier,I am running them on my 700 Grizzly.The Zillas are a great tire,and are very light,I am going to try them next.
 
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