Early Season Goat Hunt Reg 4 ***update post 17***

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well a buddy and I managed to get away for 4 days to chase goats last week in Reg 4. you'd think with a 40 tag LEH they would be crawling all over the place, but 4 very hard days of hiking/climbing/glassing in sub 0 temps at night and damn near 30C daytime highs, we saw nay a goat. did take home a few Blue's and ruffies though... here are some pics of the trip....




Campsite. started glassing right off the bat....

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getting ready to set off on day one.

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Arn't boulder feilds fun?

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getting closer....

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more glassing...

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took a nice Blue on the way down. headshot ;)

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cold, pure, delicious creek ten hours in..

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bush is thick..

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12hrs later crossing the last busted bridge to camp..

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Another Day, Another Climb

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Wally's Birthday and first time ever above the treeline. ~7300'

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Some gun ####...

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time to head down...

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oh, did I mention the forest fire above camp?

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Sorry, but I don't really see any goat country in your pictures. The vast majority of BC mountains do not have a goat population. Goats are pretty fussy on what they like.
All bands of goats have a home mountain and this home mountain must have the following qualifications. Most important is a winter range. That will be a s-w facing slope, just above timberline. The winds will blow this clear of snow in the winter, exposing the lichens and mosses they feed on.
The home moutain must also have a very rugged area, where goats can go to escape all their preditors, except eagles. And yes, they can go where hunters can't!
It would gratly pay you to contact the Game Branch before going on a goat trip, if you do not know where they live.
 
Twas a sweet ass trip :D

Figured you'd beat me to the pic posting ;)

Sorry, but I don't really see any goat country in your pictures. The vast majority of BC mountains do not have a goat population. Goats are pretty fussy on what they like.
All bands of goats have a home mountain and this home mountain must have the following qualifications. Most important is a winter range. That will be a s-w facing slope, just above timberline. The winds will blow this clear of snow in the winter, exposing the lichens and mosses they feed on.
The home moutain must also have a very rugged area, where goats can go to escape all their preditors, except eagles. And yes, they can go where hunters can't!
It would gratly pay you to contact the Game Branch before going on a goat trip, if you do not know where they live.

That was a Southwest facing slope and the other side was VERY rugged. We were there because Amphib was tipped off by another goat hunter that this was a good place to go.
 
thanks for the tips, but the locals I know would beg to differ.

as this is but a small corner of my LEH zone, I'm not really miffed at the lack of animals. a LOT more ground to cover.


I don't know Amphibious... locals vs an expert on the internet? You might just want to quit now.


Nice pics by the way.
 
thanks for the tips, but the locals I know would beg to differ.

as this is but a small corner of my LEH zone, I'm not really miffed at the lack of animals. a LOT more ground to cover.

We will ignore Lazy Ike's remarks.
But, from the pictures, I still don't really see any mountains that look like goat country. However, if you say so, we won't argue, but the slopes I see in the pictures just don't look like goat winter ground.
In nice, sunny weather like we have had, goats can wander as much as maybe twenty miles from their home mountain, but they always return to the home mountain before a storm comes. Their home mountain will be all tracked up with paths across the slopes and lots of bedding areas.
These paths and trails on the slopes can often be glassed from a distance and will be a give away for mountain game being there to make the trails.
I have only hunted goats once in the Kootanys, so not familiar with the mountains there. Some of my more familiar areas have been south west of Burns Lake, south of Chetwyn, northern areas of Tweedsmuir Park, south of Telkwa, a couple of good trips into 7-39 and one north east of that.
For years, goat hunting was my favourite big game adventures and I would sometimes make at least two trips in a year.
So, I have collected a bit of knowledge about their habitat.
 
great pictures some of those hills look familiar I've hunted goats in the kootenays a fair amount but I'm not any kind of expert .I've gone up early with my bow and got close to goats and hunted late and got goats the only advice I would offer is if you don't see a goat from the bottom with your spoting scope don't waste your time climbing unless you just like the climb.pm me with the area that you are hunting I may have been there already
 
Well, I for one sleep sounder with the knowledge that you two miscreants were chasing goats above the treeline on Wally’s birthday, and not harassing (and impregnating) the hapless female virgins of Kelowna.:D

It looks like it was a ##### of a hike. I hope you two had fun!:)
 
Well, I for one sleep sounder with the knowledge that you two miscreants were chasing goats above the treeline on Wally’s birthday, and not harassing (and impregnating) the hapless female virgins of Kelowna.:D

It looks like it was a ##### of a hike. I hope you two had fun!:)

there are virgins left in kelowna?



we took a couple blues and ruffies, saw white tail, porcupines, pack rats, black tail weasel, hippies.... think thats about it..

H4831: I was tipped off about this bowl from a local. it's right on the border of "Goat Range Prov. Park", so figured it would be a good place to start. It is a very different area from the other goaty places i've seen the bearded ones before (Ft.St.James, Kitsault/Anyox, Valemount), but the slopes that were not pictured did look quite good, but I wasn't about to rope down to check for scat.
 
there are virgins left in kelowna?

OK, you got me there.:D

we took a couple blues and ruffies, saw white tail, porcupines, pack rats, black tail weasel, hippies.... think thats about it..

What? You didn't have a tag for hippies?:confused:

Stupid hippies!:mad:

Weasels are pretty cool to watch in the bush. They sure are curious little critters......and fast!:)
 
Definitely not goat country.... ;)

so popped back in again for a couple days... different drainage this time...

2 mature billies spotted at the top of a bowl, approx 6100', watched them feed and bed down all afternoon, then feed in the exact same location the following morning, hiked up to see if I could catch them in their afternoon grazing... no dice. had to head down the mountain at 3:30, didn't make it back to camp until well after dark. 4hrs up and 5.5hrs down, doesn't look it from the pics, but the timber is deceptively steep and rugged. will head back in with more gear and spend a couple nights up top, hopefully these two stay put -one of them was noticeably larger then the other, looked like a keeper.... found some nice "right now" piles of grizz scat up there, full of deer hair, makes for some interesting nights alone... some pics:

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Now I'm gonna chime in, cause I know everything...

Those first pics did not look like goat country to me. They looked like the dark side of the moon. However, I suspect that from those vantage points you could probably spy some goat slopes.

The goat paths are what I take notice of ( or goats) ...

Now, when are you getting back to get at those two you spotted..?
Get up there and have a glass, ... easier walking on the goat path, as long as you can follow it:)

To be honest, up in that pic is where I would make base... but then again I have no idea where you are or how far,.. best of luck !!! Get that GOAT !!!
 
On Tuesday I drove out to 4-31A, and down the Halfway river for another crack at the Two Billies I had seen on my last scouting trip. this time I was far better prepared and packed to spend 3 nights in the alpine. Arriving around noon, I shoulder my 60lb pack and start the long, slow climb into the bowl on Mount Steenhoff. Six hours later I found myself on the narrow ridge that divided the main bowl with a smaller, steep drainage, it took quite some time to find a spot flat enough to pitch my tent, in the end, with much hesitation I set up camp directly on a goat trail. Sign was everywhere, and very fresh droppings covered the entire ridge.

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Base Camp ~6080'


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You can barely spot my tent on the end of this ridge.


I spent the last bit of light collecting water and cooking dinner. I heard some rocks slide on the other side of the bowl where I had seen the goats bedding down before, but never did see what caused them to fall. the first nights sleep was brutal. but at least when I was waking up constantly I was greeted by some of the most spectacular stars I had seen in years. The next morning I awoke late, and didn't get hunting until 0700, the sun was long up. I climbed up and took a vantage point to glass on top of one of the two large 'knobs' in the middle of the bowl. Nothing moved all morning, so around 1100 i made my way back to camp for lunch and a nap.

Around 1400 I got fed up with trying to sleep and decided to walk down the the ridge to answer natures call. my pants had no sooner hit my ankles when out of the corner of my eye I spot a big white rock far below in the bush next to the creek that divides the chute. Then the rock turned it's head. up when the pants and a quick scramble back to camp for my rifle, binos, and range finder. getting back to my would-be latrine I find the goat was still laying were I had first seen him, glassing confirmed it was a billy, with good mass and length. problem was there was absolutely no way to stalk this animal. I could not get down to him without moving upwind or making a lot of noise sliding down the side of the ridge. the shot would have to be from my present location.

I saw a tree stump about 10yrds below me and slowly slid down to it, being very careful not to cause a slide in the rocky slope. I ranged him at 206yrds. it didn't seem right, he looked a lot farther then that. I ranged again, and again and again until i was satisfied with an accurate reading. this was my first time using such a tool and still didn't fully trust it. I was zero'd for 200yrds and rested my rifle across the stump. he was partially up now, resting on his haunches, nibbling in the bushes, slightly quartering towards. not the greatest shot angle, but I knew if he took one step in any direction I would loose my line of sight, there were just to many trees in the way. I watched him for a spell and when his head turn to expose his shoulder my .308 barked and I was rewarded with a spot of red on his white coat and moments later the tell-tale 'slap' of bullet on flesh.
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(the shot was taken from the stump in the foreground, the billy was in the bushes on the near side of the rockface. )


The billy struggled to his feet, now standing broadside, I rack in another round for a follow up shot and my rifle jams. struggling to clear the action I watch my goat take a single step and vanish. I wait 10 minutes, and without seeing any motion below, I begin to pick my way down the side of the ridge, side hilling so I would come up on him down wind. 45mins later I arrive at the spot and begin to search through the 5' tall bushes and pine for my trophy... movement to my right, horns, ears, white neck, it's stumbling, I raise my rifle, my feet slide in the wet moss, I fall, shot goes off, white fur flies into the air.

I'm on my side now, gasping for air, winded. I struggle to regain my senses, I see head, neck, shoulder, my rifle is up, a loud crack, then, as before, he vanishes. I can hear rocks falling, scraping, a thud, then silence.

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It's hard to tell from the photo's, but there was absolutely no way I was getting down that ravine without ropes, so it took another 40mins to work my way down the chute and then back up the creek bed to the animal. I dressed him out and left him to cool over night. one of his horns had broken off in the fall, I was devastated. I never thought a trophy would mean so much to me. I'd been purely a meat hunter until this point. luck smiled upon me and I found it under the goat the next morning while boning out the meat. seem the mountain had smiled on me once more.

morning of Day 3 I packed up, deboned as much meat as I could carry (I left the neck and one front quarter, they were mostly bloodshot anyways.) the hike down was the hardest of my life. to say I fell many times would be a gross understatement. at one point I slid into a pile of windfall and had to unbuckle myself from my pack. it then proceeded to cartwheel 50m down the mountain before becoming tangled, yet again in a pile of logs. When I arrived home I weighed my pack. with meat & rifle it was 102lbs.

I'll never hunt the alpine solo again, but this was an experience I will
treasure until the day I die. I've never had a more mentally or physically demanding hunt, and it's the one I am most proud of.


Since it was an early season animal, I figured a euro mount would suit the trophy best. he measures 10 5/8" & 9 3/8" ( one tip was broken off in the fall)

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When I arrived home I weighed my pack. with meat & rifle it was 102lbs.

I'll never hunt the alpine solo again, but this was an experience I will
treasure until the day I die. I've never had a more mentally or physically demanding hunt, and it's the one I am most proud of.


Since it was an early season animal, I figured a euro mount would suit the trophy best. he measures 10 5/8" & 9 3/8" ( one tip was broken off in the fall)

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Looks like you may have cut the cape a little short on that one :D

Did you say you pack was 60 lbs when you started? Holy crap! You need to trim that down if you are going to hunt the alpine.

I do not care what anyone says, there is no such thing as an easy goat. They have to be the toughest hunt in North America. That looks like a nice old billy. How old? Looks to be at least 9 y/o.

Great story and I am sure you will always remember that trip. The harder you have to work for it, the more precious the memories. I packed my first elk out 3 1/2 miles (one way) on my back - by myself - took 3 days. Besides the psychosomatic response of shooting back pain every time I look at the antlers in my shed, I can remember everything about that hunt, vividly, and very fondly.

Congratulations.
 
i'm working on trimming that down, but when you're solo you're heavier, you can't split the tent/stove/pot/food between a partner. pack weight also includes a 7lb rifle. 4lb sleeping bag doesn't help any. haven't aged him yet, waiting for a call back from the inspector, I haven't a clue how to age a billy.
 
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