M&P 9mm and IDPA

Do whatever you feel is best for you

beltfed said:
I agree with all of your comments Steve except for the one I've highlighted.

The SO is in charge of the range/bay period. full stop.

Greg: :rolleyes:
If you have issues with how people do hammer down with a firearm with a mag safety, that's obviously your perogative as an SO.
However, you may want to keep this discussion in mind if you ever decide to DQ someone because they didn't do it the way you like it done.
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:wave: This smilie is about as ghey as this one:bigHug:


I looked back to see where I discussed DQ'ing someone. Couldn't find it. What was discussed was that they will use the disconnect without a loaded magazine while I am SO'ing.

This to me shouldn't even be discussed in this thread as it is not an IDPA issue but more of a general safe unloading procedure issue.

I googled quickly how to unload a mag disconnect pistol and I never found one that explained to put in a loaded magazine to use the mag disconnect.

To sum it up, I firmly don't believe in putting ammunition back in your firearm to show it unloaded and safe. If you feel that you should then go ahead and roll with it.

Greg
 
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Let's get is straight here.

It will be a H E L I C O P T E R. You think you would know the difference being your in the business and you should be able to read my mind!:D

Anyways if it crashes and I make it, I will be walking out with a "hot" pistol strapped to my side. Hope that doesn't qualify me for a DQ! And trust me after the crash, there might be some attitude.

Greg

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You said "airplane" earlier this evening.

I think you may be suffering from the fling-wing related SPS, Shaken Passenger Syndrome. It's like Shaken Baby, but for adults.

Enough with the hugs, or everyone will think Wes hacked your account.
 
When a shooter comes to the line with a firearm with a disconnect, I would hope that all SO's give 1 one of 2 instructions before shooting starts:

1- Inform the shooter of your way of the hammer down process.

OR

2- Pass the SO duty onto another SO for that particular shooter, and SO who is not uncomfortable with the loaded mag practice of hammer down for shooters with guns with mag safeties.

If you are the only SO at the match, explain to the entire group before the match even starts that you do not approve the hammer down procedure with a loaded mag and that you will only allow hammer down on an empty mag if this is your prefered method.
 
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I am glad

that all my fellow IDPA shooters feel that I am so ignorant of how things work in life.

Yes, how it will work is I expect everyone is a mind reader and when they step up to the line, if they do not coply with any one little thing that I expect from them, there will be an automatic DQ and they will be taken to the gate with their bad attitude.

Holy crap Steve, thanks for the little tidbit of info for helping run shooters through the match. You guys really make me laugh when you type stuff in here.

Greg
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
I will assure everyone here one thing. Not one single person will be stepping on the range I am participating as a safety officer or range officer and use the above procedure.

Greg
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OK. You've made it clear in your mind it is a safety infraction.

So what happens when you run across a shooter who is extremely efficient with their clearing technique?
What happens when the loaded mag goes into the gun, they hammer down, remove the mag and holster faster than you can say 'slide forward, hammer down & holster'?

Are you going to blow a gasket and dress them down, or worse, punt them from the match for doing something un-safe despite otherwise?

Just curious, you know - for discussion sake.
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
that all my fellow IDPA shooters feel that I am so ignorant of how things work in life.

Yes, how it will work is I expect everyone is a mind reader and when they step up to the line, if they do not coply with any one little thing that I expect from them, there will be an automatic DQ and they will be taken to the gate with their bad attitude.

Holy crap Steve, thanks for the little tidbit of info for helping run shooters through the match. You guys really make me laugh when you type stuff in here.

Greg
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You're pretty much the reason I don't participate in IDPA
 
chise said:
You're pretty much the reason I don't participate in IDPA
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I wouldn't put too much into what you are reading here...all of the folks I've run across are good people in a great sport. People that tend to seem 'rough around the edges' (even those IPSCers :p) are pretty decent in person.
 
chise

What Beltfed said plus you have to understand we are all pasionate about our sport be it IDPA or IPSC for that matter.

Greg gives hundreds of hours of his time both to his club, to IDPA and to new shooters and still maintains a full family life. He is the reason why 17 shooters shot the IDPA Pistol Match last week in Peace River. I don't want ot embarass him anymore than I have by posting this but he put me up for eight days, drove over eight hours to meet me at the airport when we ran the SO course in Peace River. Why. To save the guys some money on the cost of getting me there and to start an IDPA club in Peace River.

If things got tough and Greg was standing beside you, he still would be there when things get real tough so you might want to reflect on your opinion.

Some might do more amd some might do less but that is what he does in his part of the shooting world. We could use more Gregs in our shooting sports be it IDPA, IPSC or just plinking.

Take Care

Bob
 
We all can get along here.

Gentlemen, and I use that term lightly around here.:D

I want to apologise for some of my wordings in these posts. I want to also say thanks for the kind words from Bob (Canuck44). It means a lot to be recongnize for my efforts.

I participate in a lot of different shooting activites which includes IDPA, as well as contribute to our club for countless hours to help aid other shooters by giving them a clean safe range to shoot at and enjoy.

When I get on a cause that I am passionate about, sometimes things get a little carried away. I have yet to "dress down" any shooter for anything and during activites such as IDPA that I am participating in, I believe that everyone leaves with a smile which is my hope that they do.

I am probably more passionate about safety issues than most but I don't make it uncomfortable to be a shooter. When it comes to preshoot meetings with shooters, we lay out a pretty good safety meeting which I believe covers everything that pertains to the events activities.

If a shooter does not follow commands, we will continue to work through the commands and actions until it works for both people.

One more thing that all shooters should know about me, is that I am a firm believer in promoting IDPA in Canada and hope that the steady growth we have seen continues.

Greg
Anyways, I have just got back from working 18 hours and traveling 800 kms to do so. I hope that discussion can keep going forward in a light manner.

Greg
 
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Back to the striker issue with M&P's. My buddy has 2 M&P's - an early .40 and a newer .45 with the thumb safety. The .40 is on its third striker, while the .45 is still on the original, so perhaps there has been an improvement.

FWIW, he carries the .45 most days as his primary duty gun as he is a US LEO, so the trust factor is high with that one.
 
Long story/thread short

I picked up the M&P 9 from my buddy on Friday and taking it to the range Tuesday to break its cherry. So expect to see me next year at IDPA shoots.
 
My M&P

I have put 80.000 through mine before I cleaned it, never had one failure. I took it appart and put it in the dishwasher, blew it out with compressed air a little oil and back on the range, I still have not had a failure, I also have teh M&P 40 same thing no failures.

A dependable long life pistol, you can not go wrong. It is an investment not an expense.
 
French connection said:
I have put 80.000 through mine before I cleaned it, never had one failure. I took it appart and put it in the dishwasher, blew it out with compressed air a little oil and back on the range, I still have not had a failure, I also have teh M&P 40 same thing no failures.

A dependable long life pistol, you can not go wrong. It is an investment not an expense.
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You put eighty thousand rounds through your M&P, and you never cleaned it once while doing it, all with absolutely ZERO failures?
 
French connection said:
I have put 80.000 through mine before I cleaned it, never had one failure. I took it appart and put it in the dishwasher, blew it out with compressed air a little oil and back on the range, I still have not had a failure, I also have teh M&P 40 same thing no failures.

A dependable long life pistol, you can not go wrong. It is an investment not an expense.
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You must mean 80 rounds. I like my M&P but it starts having hiccups well before 1000 rounds without cleaning. I think you'd probably have shot out the barrel before 80 000 rounds.
 
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