Tony Gauthier
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The main tube.
Bushnell vrs Leupold
- Thread starter GeorgeMurphy
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The main tube.
I disagree with the whole premise...the best optics are Euro, the best made rifles are Euro or American, Leupold makes very nice scopes in the USA. I have scopes made in all 3 places and i like them all, I don't however care for any guns made in Japan, I haven't seen one yet that can outshoot a simple Rem. 700.
I've had Bushnell, Leupold, Zeiss, Swarovski and Leica optics go back for repair/replacement.
The only Bushnells I'd buy are the Elites, and the only Leupolds are the VX III and better grades.
All optics can and do break.
The only Bushnells I'd buy are the Elites, and the only Leupolds are the VX III and better grades.
All optics can and do break.
It is true that Leupold scopes use Japanese lenses but to use the term "assembled" in the USA makes one think that the other parts are out sourced as well when in fact this is incorrect. Some optics companies have most of the parts manufactured offshore and then assemble them in the USA so they can call them USA manufactured products. Leupold makes virtually all their parts and with the exception of some external finishing on the body (done in the Portland Oregon area). I have been at the factory in Beaverton Oregon and have seen most manufacturing stages including rings and bases. Phil.
As you move up the Leupold line from Rifleman and up, does durability of the scope increase? Does the mechanism for adjusting the reticle get higher quality and more reliable / recoil resistant? Or is it entirely lens quality?
Johnn Peterson
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I have a few by both manfacturers but the greater number are Leupold. And with a couple of problems with each brand, both companies delt with these problems quickly and to my satisfaction. Given a choice though, I do prefer Leupold.
I owned the Conquest you mention, and a VXIII of the above configuration at the same time about 2 years ago.
I will admit that the Zeiss was brighter, but the Leupold had better resolution; a much clearer picture than the Zeiss.
1GLOCKAHOLIC
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Either you have had a lot of bad luck or your reckless with your optics!
Just a statement of fact, even rifleman series of leupold scopes have a lifetime warranty, and unless there is visable abuse of the scope it is replaced quickly and with no questions asked.
on bushnells scopes lower end of things try and get anything replaced after 1 year... and you cannot beat leupolds canadian customer service.
on bushnells scopes lower end of things try and get anything replaced after 1 year... and you cannot beat leupolds canadian customer service.
I wouldn't say I am reckless, but I do hunt fairly hard.
However, some things cannot be attributed to rough treatment, such as leaking LRF, LRF that suddenly stops ranging past 10 yards, blurry tubed binos (after no impact) and broken reticles from recoil.
Good optics should be able to handle some rough treatment..
See this where Bushnell went wrong by marketing scopes in price points from $49.00 to $199.00 and the tens of thousands of pieces that have been sold in these price points in the Canadian market place. Many of these products carry the same warranty as a 6500, some don't..
Leupold's service is second to none, but if they had to service the same volume of product that the Bushnell depot has to deal with , things might be considerably different. FS
Probably because there are too many conflicts of interest for them to anchor a deal with Nikon.
Nipon Kogaku K.K. has been making optics since prior to 1920, and Nikon glass is well considered to be among with the world's best.
It's funny that I should stumble across this thread after I just spent a whole bunch of time at P&D comparing the optics on a Bushnell 4200....a Bushnell 6500 Tactical....and a Leupold Mark4. All three scopes had variable magnification and 50 mm objectives so in essence it was an apple to apple comparison. When I compared all the scopes at equal low magnifications it was a wash between all of them. As I started to increase the magnification and compare them all at 14X the Mark4 had the nicest glass in my opinion....and it was noticeable. Mechanically I liked the feel of the adjustments on the 6500 Tactical better than the others. Which one is more repeatable and robust is debatable.
an awful lot of it depends ON THE SCOPE ITSELF- i've got a banner that i got through the company( i used to work for a little company called WILD-which became wild- lietz, which became sokkisha- we repaired THEODLITES- that means re-grinding lenses, replacing gears, everything up to replacing the nitrogen) and it's absolutely perfect- went through every scope in the store- same deal with my binos- which are carl schmidt) - back then weaver was the top end in scopes,( typically the k-4) most people hadn't heard of leupold, and sokkisha and wild/lietz were competing for the same dollar- where bushnell "went wrong" was going to the limited warranty- all my bushnells have a lifetime - and i've had 2 replaced on occasion- which cost me all of 10 bucks for their"inspection " fee
bearkilr
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My Browning A-Bolts have consistently outshot my Rem 700's,FWIW. Made by Miroku, in Japan.
Personally, I wouldn't put Bushnell on the same level as Leupold, and I wouldn't put Leupold on the same level as the top end Zeiss or Swarovski. Their LPS line has been a bit of a bomb.
t-star- I think you mean Leitz, which then merged with Cambridge to become Leica.
