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Hi guys,
I've been running my AR with a little combo of grease and gun oil and its been shooting reliably for quite some time. I'm currently using grease from the SAN PE90 "classic green" cleaning kit but I'm running low.

Do you know what's the closest thing I can get to that grease? Where I can get it? Or if I can get more of that exact grease?

Thanks,
Alex
 
Use CLP Breakfree, you can get it at Canadian Tire in small bottles. Its all I use on my swiss arms and sako TRG's other than an occasional bore cleaner WITHOUT ammonia. You will be happy with it. Grease is for HIGH SPEED applications and your AR is not as high speed as you think. It works great as a cleaner lube and anticorrosion
 
Hi guys,
I've been running my AR with a little combo of grease and gun oil and its been shooting reliably for quite some time. I'm currently using grease from the SAN PE90 "classic green" cleaning kit but I'm running low.

Do you know what's the closest thing I can get to that grease? Where I can get it? Or if I can get more of that exact grease?

Thanks,
Alex



White lithium bearing grease is fine. thin layer and it will protect it until you get the exact stuff again.

Dizzy is right about the CLP. I would reccomend to anyone that buys a brand new rifle to detail strip the rifle and clean all the rifles internal parts with CLP. you will be shocked to see how smooth the action gets. My M14 get's a coat of CLP, and then it's cleaned and then a thin layer to inner of the reciever track areas..... then she get's grease on the outer track.

Just curious but where in your AR are you using the grease?
 
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CLP is crap as are all oils. Do a search, this has been discussed before. As for similar grease to the Swiss stuff, anything will do. Make sure its high temp. I run AP-5 by Jetlube(Edmonton). It can be had at Acklands Grainger for about $15 for a 900ml tube.

TDC
 
TDC, your global statement of CLP is crap is not very educated. Some companies make clp's that are no good others make CLP's that are outstanding Breakfree is one of them a gun running only on Breakfree CLP after 20,000 rounds compared to one run only with AP-5 Jetlube will have a much higher resale value and many less failure to feeds. There is a reason AP is only$15 a litre. Further more bearing grease has no place in a firearm, the applications are significantly different. high speed high temp bearings are all together different than firearms.
 
CLP is crap as are all oils. Do a search, this has been discussed before. As for similar grease to the Swiss stuff, anything will do. Make sure its high temp. I run AP-5 by Jetlube(Edmonton). It can be had at Acklands Grainger for about $15 for a 900ml tube.

TDC



Wow man your seeming a little angry there, we are just discussing what works good for different people.
 
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When the United States Military issued PD-48, a purchase description of properties for a single, multi-purpose product to maintain their weaponry, it became known as the "impossible specification" because of its severe requirements. The first product to meet the challenge - Break-Free CLP. Break-Free's flagship product, CLP is a unique formulation of synthetic oils and individual proprietary ingredients which synergize in combination to do three important tasks simultaneously: Effectively Clean, Lubricate and Protect metal. After years of rigorous testing, CLP actually exceeded the Military's requirements and was approved as a product to meet MIL-L-63460, a new specification. Break-Free CLP is now recognized around the world as the standard by which maximum metal performance and protection is ensured.

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•Penetrates and spreads along metal surfaces into every pit and crevice to undercut contamination and lift residue away where it can be removed.
•Long-lasting lubricating film dramatically reduces adhesion of sand, grit or other abrasives which cause wear and failure.
•Corrosion inhibitors prevent the formation of rust while Break-Free's unique boundary film protects metal surfaces from moisture and other contaminants.
•Specially formulated synthetic oils won't lose viscosity, dry out or stiffen up in extreme environments - such as cold, heat, dust, dirt, humidity and even salt air - keeping equipment in ready condition for months at a time.
 
CLP is crap as are all oils. Do a search, this has been discussed before. As for similar grease to the Swiss stuff, anything will do. Make sure its high temp. I run AP-5 by Jetlube(Edmonton). It can be had at Acklands Grainger for about $15 for a 900ml tube.

TDC
If CLP is crap in your opinion maybe you should explain why. Are you a chemical engineer? Can you explain why the CLP formula has been adopted by many military's around the world.
 
Hi guys,
I've been running my AR with a little combo of grease and gun oil and its been shooting reliably for quite some time. I'm currently using grease from the SAN PE90 "classic green" cleaning kit but I'm running low.

Do you know what's the closest thing I can get to that grease? Where I can get it? Or if I can get more of that exact grease?

Thanks,
Alex

You do need to run AR's a little more wet than swiss arms you can use a mixture of two thirds desiel oil not fuel and one third part Dexron transmission fluid Diesel OIL in a pinch. DON'T USE GREASE, it collects dust and crud and is for high speed high temp which an AR is NOT

If you cant get Breakfree CLP Slip2000 is as good
 
I was watching a documentary a few months ago, about the AK-47, if you realy need to clean the barrell, and i'm sure this applies to almost all firearms, that you can just tie a knot in a bootlace, dip it in motor oil and pull it through the barrell.

I thought that was pretty tight. Back to basics...
 
TDC, your global statement of CLP is crap is not very educated. Some companies make clp's that are no good others make CLP's that are outstanding Breakfree is one of them a gun running only on Breakfree CLP after 20,000 rounds compared to one run only with AP-5 Jetlube will have a much higher resale value and many less failure to feeds. There is a reason AP is only$15 a litre. Further more bearing grease has no place in a firearm, the applications are significantly different. high speed high temp bearings are all together different than firearms.

That's odd, here's a link to my Larry Vickers discussing lubrication and his experience with grease as a superior lubricant compared to oils. Lets cover the no brainer portion of this discussion. Oil drips, burns, and blows off of parts. Grease does not. Add to that the "belief" that CLP is performing three tasks tells me it isn't doing anyone very well. There is a reason CLP is priced higher than other lubricants such as AP-5. The belief that "if the military uses it it MUST be good" fuels the frenzy and only a fool wouldn't increase his profit margin at such blind following.
http://vickerstactical.com/tactical-tips/weapon-lubrication/

As for failures, I will tell you that being one of the few who ran grease during a carbine course in the rain and sand(GP's range is made of the stuff) my rifle had zero failures. I witnessed nearly all other rifles including VZ's with oil lubrication fail. There are many other reports of both students and professionals running grease with(wait for it) zero failures. How lubrication causes a failure to feed is something I like to see. I'm not a fan of over lubrication but I have never heard of a firearm failing due to over lubrication.

As for resale. Who cares, a used gun is still used. How it was used or abused is nearly impossible to determine. Furthermore, I don't buy guns to sell them for the next "look cool" flavor of the month so resale is a moot point.

The AP-5 grease isn't necessarily a bearing grease. Having discussed my intended use with a Jetlube representative, AP-5 was recommended. Below are the properties and MSDS information. Note the description.

AP-5 consists of MoS2, rust and corrosion inhibitors, and extreme pressure additives blended into a non-melting base grease. It retains its consistency over wide operating temperatures, it will not drip or run off when exposed to high temperatures. AP-5 is waterproof and has high chemical and mechanical stability. The MoS2 provides a high film strength with a low coefficient of friction

http://www.jetlube.com/jetlube/uploads/pdf/msdspdf/ap5.pdf

To each their own. If you want to continue to use inferior oils be my guest.

TDC
 
I'm still going to use CLP for the exterior of my firearms, ... but if grease is preemo TDC, where do you apply it in the AR and the VZ ?

Greasing the bolt carrier and parts of the AR15 and CZ... all the internal parts with grease?

I will give it a try if you tell me where it's gonna be applied, so it doesn't muck up.
 
TDC. to each their own, your guns your life, run them how you like, just don't claim to be an expert and lie about the merrits of other products when you are flat out wrong! Breakfree CLP is not an inferior product for use on firearms period.
 
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