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TDC said:
It may be but it still burns, blows, and drips off.

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It burn at 999 degree C !! It stay put where you put it. Any oil will drip if you put too much...
Research it - you will see that if it protect a 5 millions dollars engine made of special alloy -from freezing to a 1000 degree C - and moving parts like compressor bearing up to 50000 RPM- it is more than needed for guns.:kickInTheNuts:

Best oil there is...
 
i am running Lucas #2 red and tacky on the bolt and all my pistols


for oil i am running gun zeit
 
chopper 1 said:
Anything will work,but -

A long barrel AR will work fine with grease but a shorty gets much more unburned powder, carbon, gas etc. and grease quickly turns to dry crud.

Break Free clp in a shorty seems to be far more effective because it keeps the burnt garbage in suspension and blows it out the ejection port. You just have to keep goopin it up though.

Back in the 30 rd mag days I ran a 16" Colt AR without cleaning it for about 8000 to 10,000 rds by goopin it up with CLP as soon as the action started feeling gritty , never had a failure. :eek:
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Did you read Niko-PG's post or do you just not believe him?
 
More power to him

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Stevo said:
Did you read Niko-PG's post or do you just not believe him?
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Shorties are notorious for short stroking due to different size barrel gas tube holes, buffer spring tension, buffer weight, ammo etc. - due to the different powder burning rate, timing of the impulse down the gas tube etc.

Mine is dirtier (as most are) than a full length barrel. What I posted worked for me - I tried what Niko did and it didnt work - the gun crudded up and was dry and short stroked.
Perhaps he used piston shorties or different barrel gas hole diameter, or different buffer weight etc. and it worked for him.

But what I said still applies to all AR's - CLP keeps the crud in suspension - grease doesnt. CLP does blow out the ejection port.

In a rifle that sh!ts where it eats I prefer something that blows the sh!t out while its being used.:ar15:
 
Everyone has some different preferences even trainers.

Ken Hackathorn swears by aircraft grade Lubriplate.
Pat Rogers recommends Slip 2000.
Vickers likes TW25B for a grease type lube and Militec for a wet lube.

A high grade lubricant be it grease or wet lube is recommended overall to keep it functioning properly.

To Quote Vickers:
http://vickerstactical.com/tactical-tips/weapon-lubrication/
"Please don’t get your panties in a bunch since I did not mention your pet lubricant. I am sure there are dozens of excellent lubricants on the market I am not aware of that do a great job; I am simply stating what has worked for me with very good results for many years. In parting I would remind you to remember two key points about weapons lube; any lube is better than no lube and you can run a gun dirty and wet (or lubed) but you cannot run one dirty and dry. Abide by these two rules and they will do you right"

I like the TW25B and Slip 2000 Extreme Weapons Lubricant (EWL) currently.
 
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TDC said:
There should be no lubrication on the buffer and spring, there is no need for it.
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...according to you...
While it may not necessarily be required, the buffer and spring are reciprocating parts and lube in the area cannot hurt.
BTW, if you are running your bolt wet, you eventually lube the tube anyhow.
 
beltfed said:
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...according to you...
While it may not necessarily be required, the buffer and spring are reciprocating parts and lube in the area cannot hurt.
BTW, if you are running your bolt wet, you eventually lube the tube anyhow.
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I would say that - I put CLP on it to make sure the spring won't rust.
 
beltfed said:
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...according to you...
While it may not necessarily be required, the buffer and spring are reciprocating parts and lube in the area cannot hurt.
BTW, if you are running your bolt wet, you eventually lube the tube anyhow.
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Not according to me, according to many others. There is no need to lubricate the spring. Even with a lubricated BCG the spring does not get lubricated. If you're lubricating the entire BCG you're wrong. There are four rails which the BCG rides and that is all that needs lube, aside from the bolt itself. As for rusting. Its called maintenance, try it. The spring is subjected to very little if any moisture. Buffer springs are a wearing part and should be replaced regularly.

TDC
 
There was a post on another site where Pat Rogers mentioned running an AR with Vagasil just to prove than any lube is better than none. I'm sure KevinB could expand on it.

If you are just shooting yours on the range just use want you want, I just use CLP as I have it in my cleaning kit from work.
 
TDC said:
If you're lubricating the entire BCG you're wrong. There are four rails which the BCG rides and that is all that needs lube, aside from the bolt itself. As for rusting. Its called maintenance, try it.
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You are so cocky TDC, why don't you go back to teaching the JTF2 how to clean thier AR's.
 
TDC said:
Not according to me, according to many others. There is no need to lubricate the spring. Even with a lubricated BCG the spring does not get lubricated. If you're lubricating the entire BCG you're wrong. There are four rails which the BCG rides and that is all that needs lube, aside from the bolt itself. As for rusting. Its called maintenance, try it. The spring is subjected to very little if any moisture. Buffer springs are a wearing part and should be replaced regularly.

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We put CLP on everything because of the C and P. Maintenance means applying CLP on anything that is rustable -ie, ferrous metal.

Spring does not need to be lubricated becasue there are no bearing surfaces. On the other hand, you are kidding yourself if you don't think it will rust -

That's why the military give people CLP - try to explain to people all these little things. Just apply CLP to everything and you will be done.
 
Good grief. Really? Another lube thread?

I have done a few 500-1000 round a day courses.

Wiped the bolt carrier group off. Applied more CLP. When I felt my weapon needed it, I would clean the bolt and inside the carrier (Read as every Monday morning!:D). And apply more CLP.

This is from 20'', 16'', 14.5'' and shorter barrels.

Same in dust and extreme heat. Don't get me started about heat...

My Dad can beat up your Dad. I read it in a magazine....:rolleyes:
 
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