Damn Burris Zee rings

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I've now had two occasions with scopes that slipped using the Burris rings with the plastic inserts:mad:. I am always sure to clean all the oil off of them before I install. On both occasions it was while hunting in cold weather. I get my guns set during the summer and practice away but now twice in hunting season the scope slips. I took a doe a couple of weeks back and my shot was close but seemed high from where I aimed. Today was the last day of BP season and I fired my gun to clear the charge before going home to clean the rifle and put it away. Sure as Sh*t the scope had slipped slipped.

I like rings but I'm think I'm going back to ugly old weaver rings as they have never slipped on me.

Anyone have similar experiences or have a solution.
 
Were they torqued to the right specs? I've had Zees on some pretty hard recoiling rifles and they have never slipped - I know this because I marked them with a pencil on install.
 
I've not had that experience. I think you need to tighten them more. I tighten mine to 15 inch-lbs, that's pretty tight, and no damage is done to the scope tube.
 
I don't have any special torque wrench type tools but the screws were tight and with locktite added. What are the specs for torque ?
 
I have not had this experience, and I use the Signature rings almost exclusively. Strange that would happen, I thought the inserts were supposed to offer better holding ability.
 
I was thinking of purchasing this style of ring for my Sako 6PPC. Will they work on the Sako base? Thanks
 
I haven't had it happen to me, but if you think about all the various manufacturing tolerances out there, you can see that it could eventually happen. +1 on the Weaver comment though, I've used them on 8mm Rem Mag and 340 Wby rifles, and they kick pretty good, no slippage problems whatsoever. - dan
 
Just to clarify; did the ring screws come loose, or did the scope move in the rings while torqued down?

A decent rule of thumb for ring screws is hand snug plus about 1/4 turn.
 
We mount a couple of hundred scopes a year and have ever seen this problem with the signature style Burris rings. Make sure you clean both sides of the plastic insert and the scope body as well. Sounds like you you didn't tighten the ring top down hard enough. Also with modern Torx head screws we almost never need or use loctite. Phil.
 
Been using them since they came out on everything from 243 to 375H&H (which by the way I acknowledge isn't that "snappy" a recoiler) a very heavy scope can be more problematic though. Have you made sure that you are using the "matched" pairs of inserts eg a (+) AND a (-) as instructed for each ring or are you using two (+)'s etc together which is a "no-no" ... this could result in a slipping problem...
 
I was thinking of purchasing this style of ring for my Sako 6PPC. Will they work on the Sako base? Thanks
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Chevy ..don't know if they make them for Sako dovetails... there were Weaver cross slot bases that could be drifted onto the Sako dovetails ... and these would accept the Burris Signature "Zee" rings ... but weren't very elegant and frankly I never thought they could be trusted not to slide off if you bumped the rifle on it's butt too hard.... the second (or 3rd) generation Sako rings also had a plastic insert like Burris ( in fact I think they beat Burris to the market) and they would be a better (also more expensive and heavy) option for you I think.
 
Is the Sako not drilled and tapped as well as having the dovetail?
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none of mine are ... haven't seen any that are fom the factory ... maybe the new ones ... or old sako actions used by others a long time ago (eg Browning etc)
 
Cummins4x4 said:
Had the same issue with Burris's, chucked them and put Talleys on my Cooper.
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Me too, but I'm too cheep to throw them away. I gave each insert/scope tube interface a dab of blue loctite. Worked like a damn, and very easy to clean off the scope if you move from rifle to rifle.
I find the most difficult scopes to "grip" are leupold gloss black.
 
AP said:
Chevy ..don't know if they make them for Sako dovetails... there were Weaver cross slot bases that could be drifted onto the Sako dovetails ... and these would accept the Burris Signature "Zee" rings ... but weren't very elegant and frankly I never thought they could be trusted not to slide off if you bumped the rifle on it's butt too hard.... the second (or 3rd) generation Sako rings also had a plastic insert like Burris ( in fact I think they beat Burris to the market) and they would be a better (also more expensive and heavy) option for you I think.
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There is an adapter for Sako receivers made by Burris that will allow you to use standard rings (front dovetail rea windage like the Leupold system). Burris makes the signature ring in the standard dovetail model as well as the Zee ring. I would not bother using this system on a Sako since the Optilok system is far stronger (but more expensive). Phil.
 
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