M4 Survival Rifle - Any Info

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This is what I know so far
RIFLE SURVIVAL CAL. 22 M4 - Stamped on left side of frame above wire stock.
Caliber .22 Hornet - Bolt Action - 4 shot Detachable Magazine
Sights: Front post with protective ears. Lyman 55H Peep Sight (Fully Adjustable)
Detachable 14" inch Barrel & Collapsible Wire Stock.
Weight: 4 lbs.
Markings: Canadian Acceptance Stamp - C with arrow inside - On front of receiver to the right of serial no.
Manufacturer: H&R Arms Co., Ltd.Drummondville, P.Q. Can


Any other info out there

And Most of all what are they worth $$$$ to Sell the one I have does have the 14inch barrel
Mine is all there and very nice shape but the bolt does not match the receiver/gun.I have found another person that also has 2 and both of his botls are not matching. I will try to get a picture up soon.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Survival_Rifle

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a while back i found the paperwork from when my grandfather ordered one of these, IIRC the price was under $20. no idea what ever became of it.
 
i saw about 30 of them in the forensic lab in TO they were going to be destroyed ..i don't know where they came from ..they were destroying a ton of stuff mostly crap iirc
 
I have seen several with a piece of bar welded on the telescoping stock so it won't go in all the way in an attempt to de-restrict them. Doesn't work, as the word "originally" or "designed to" comes into play somewhere.

They were likely made for the F86 sabre aircraft. It was my understanding that when Canadair got the blueprints for the F86, it included the drawings for the accessories as well.

The C/l\ on the M4 is a bit of an anomoly. It was supposed to have been dropped in 1947, yet every M4 I have seen in Canada has this mark on them. I believe the M4 were early 50s vintage.
 
stencollector said:
I have seen several with a piece of bar welded on the telescoping stock so it won't go in all the way in an attempt to de-restrict them. Doesn't work, as the word "originally" or "designed to" comes into play somewhere.

They were likely made for the F86 sabre aircraft. It was my understanding that when Canadair got the blueprints for the F86, it included the drawings for the accessories as well.

The C/l\ on the M4 is a bit of an anomoly. It was supposed to have been dropped in 1947, yet every M4 I have seen in Canada has this mark on them. I believe the M4 were early 50s vintage.
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I'm not entirely sure about it "not working"....:redface:...we do have the welded "Krinker" 10/22's, after all? .......:yingyang:
 
stencollector said:
I have seen several with a piece of bar welded on the telescoping stock so it won't go in all the way in an attempt to de-restrict them. Doesn't work, as the word "originally" or "designed to" comes into play somewhere.

They were likely made for the F86 sabre aircraft. It was my understanding that when Canadair got the blueprints for the F86, it included the drawings for the accessories as well.

The C/l\ on the M4 is a bit of an anomoly. It was supposed to have been dropped in 1947, yet every M4 I have seen in Canada has this mark on them. I believe the M4 were early 50s vintage.
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Maybe the CFO classified this m4 as a pistol. Once a handgun always a handgun :mad:.If it's not the case, I don't know why it would stay in the restricted class if the OAL is longer than 26 ":confused:.
 
Ganderite said:
They were in RCAF survival kits. The 22 Hornet ammo was soft point and some weinie decided military personel should not have soft point ammo. Then Hornets were replaced with EALs.
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Is it not in the Geneva convention that military uses hard point? Although the M4 and the later EAL were likely meant for shooting game in the remote north after a crash, with the cold war in full swing back then, you would not have wanted to find yourself in a situation of being behind enemy lines with a rifle loaded with soft point.


Maybe the CFO classified this m4 as a pistol. Once a handgun always a handgun .If it's not the case, I don't know why it would stay in the restricted class if the OAL is longer than 26 ".
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The following is the direct quote from the CCofC:

(c) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise, or
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The M4 was designed to be fired with the stock telescoped. As far as I can tell, the CFC uses this to keep the M4 restricted. I had considered turning a longer barrel for mine to derestrict it. The barrels are designed to just turn off by hand.

There is no FRT listing (last time I checked) for a non-restricted M4.
 
my86hd said:
Thanks for all the info now how about a value to sell
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Basic gun, matching numbers, complete with mag should see around $500-$650. Thats if you want to sell it. If you want to BTT your ad 5 or 6 times, then start a lot higher than that.

In the US they are worth a lot, but your gun isn't in the US nor is it importable into the US with that short barrel.
 
There was one for sale on EE about 3 months ago. It first posted for $7K! the following week it was back and down to $4k. It sold after that, but the amount was untold.

You will find that savage 340 magazines are almost identical, but hold 5 rds and are of better quality than original M4 mags. The riveting of the sides of the M4 mags always seems to let go.
 
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