So What's a 45-70 Gov't Revolver like?
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Mike Oxbig
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I have never shot one myself but saw one once fired at the range. It's a BEAST!
You drool over the one at Wholesale, too, eh?
It would have to look huge. The 45-70 cartridges standing next to even a .500S&W makes the .500 look like a .22.
pageophile
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my guide gun is a beast. I can't imagine it in revolver format.
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Turkeyslayer 1300
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?According to the Winchester ammunition sight the .45-70 beats the .500 by 100 ft/lbs at 100 yards and I think gets better as distance increases. This is a handgun to rifle comparison however. A .45-70 hand gun with black powder and 570 grain lead bullets would be pretty cool, trajectory would be terrible but it would pack a wallop.
We had one a few months ago. They are a neat gun, no doubt. We have another one coming in shortly.
From Magnum Research's website:
RECOIL
* The BFR in 45/70 recoils less than any .44 Magnum that weighs under 3-pounds.
* Recoil is a result of bullet weight, velocity and gun weight.
* Remember recoil is not a factor of size, just because it is physically large does not mean that it recoils large. The BFR simply weighs a little more than other revolvers because of its heavy design for powerful ammunition. The added weight makes the gun balance better, makes it easier to hold steady and makes it recoil less…Period.
* The 45/70 will produce the same velocity as the 454 Casull with 2/3 less pressure, and a lot less noise and muzzle flash. This is because the 45/70 case is longer so it allows for different types of gunpowder to be used and the case has more room for the burning and expanding gases to expand. The end result is less pressure, less wear and tear on the gun, less noise and less recoil.
K.O.
From Magnum Research's website:
RECOIL
* The BFR in 45/70 recoils less than any .44 Magnum that weighs under 3-pounds.
* Recoil is a result of bullet weight, velocity and gun weight.
* Remember recoil is not a factor of size, just because it is physically large does not mean that it recoils large. The BFR simply weighs a little more than other revolvers because of its heavy design for powerful ammunition. The added weight makes the gun balance better, makes it easier to hold steady and makes it recoil less…Period.
* The 45/70 will produce the same velocity as the 454 Casull with 2/3 less pressure, and a lot less noise and muzzle flash. This is because the 45/70 case is longer so it allows for different types of gunpowder to be used and the case has more room for the burning and expanding gases to expand. The end result is less pressure, less wear and tear on the gun, less noise and less recoil.
K.O.
A member at our club wanted everyone to try his 45/70 Magnum Research BFR. I did. It was way too heavy & the two factory loads were rude (Rem) & nasty (Hornady). One guy almost his the roof of the firing line weather cover with the recoiling gun. I have since seen that gun for sale used at a store nearby...
I'd have to look at the numbers but I'm not surprised at this. The .500 is one honking powerful cartridge.
But that doesn't change the fact that when standing by each other the 45-70 towers over the .500 and makes it seem puny.... and as you can appreciate that's NOT an easy thing to do to the King of handgun cartridges....
Depends on what you mean by the maximum
. If you mean Sammi pressure then for sure.Hornady #7 lists a 500gr bullet @ a max of 1350fps in 500 S&W.
Although it's in a rifle, not an 8 3/4" barrel, my Ruger #1 can push a 500gr FMJ a _lot_ faster than that. 1350fps is starting load territory.
Mind you I don't even want to think about how that would feel in a BFR.
Chris.
