Artillery projectile questions for the experts
- Thread starter myenfield
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This could be interesting. 
This is serious business. Your local police will have a connection to an EOD response. There is no way of certifying the state of what you have and I expect that EOD will take it away and blow it. DO NOT under any circumstances dispose of this stuff in a scrap metal bin.
There was a nasty incident at a Winnipeg foundry back in the 1980s involving scrap from the Shilo ranges. In this case one or more unexploded arty or mortar rounds were delivered to the foundry resulting in at least one fatality when the scrap was being processed.
If someone has a fascination with arty or tank ammo I recommend sticking to the brass casings for a souvenir. They can be polished up very nicely to make an umbrella/flag stand and a facsimile projectile can be turned out on a wood lathe.
There was a nasty incident at a Winnipeg foundry back in the 1980s involving scrap from the Shilo ranges. In this case one or more unexploded arty or mortar rounds were delivered to the foundry resulting in at least one fatality when the scrap was being processed.
If someone has a fascination with arty or tank ammo I recommend sticking to the brass casings for a souvenir. They can be polished up very nicely to make an umbrella/flag stand and a facsimile projectile can be turned out on a wood lathe.
Oh I do take this very seriously. I have seen far to many 25 pdr blinds in the past few years to take it any other way. Part of the location I work at was an artillery impact area at one time, and they come up like mushrooms every spring with the frost. My worst case scenario is some immature rigpig picking up a "rusty doorstop" to mark his time in the area and bringing it back to the city.
In 1973 a mortar bomb being used as a "Door Stop" in Vernon finally blew up. If I remember correctly a young boy died. This was the impetus for the range clearings that followed. The point being the mortar bomb had apparently been used as a door stop for years. All B.S. aside you owe it to yourself and other people who live with or near you to properly dispose of these potentialy deadly articles.
Roy
Roy
I suggest you use a hammer to tap them to see if they are empty. Not. CALL EOD. Those should have gone off when they were fired, ANYTHING or NOTHING can make them go off now. Time is not your friend with un-exploded munitions.
Thanks for all the feedback. I am taking the cautious approach and going through the police to get them taken care of. Since the 2 in question (no 1 and 2) haven't been fired, I think it's unlikely that they have been loaded. I would think it would be next to impossible to get live explosives off a military base, but I don't want to take the risk. I sort of like where my house is currently sitting...
This is a very painful choice for me, since I am a self declared milsurp addict. I hate to have them destroyed, but I think it is the best route to go. The other choice was to borrow someone's gas barbeque, take it out to the middle of a field and start it up with the rounds inside. That should give me enough time to get far away and watch the show. The only problem is that no one will lend me their barbeque
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This is a very painful choice for me, since I am a self declared milsurp addict. I hate to have them destroyed, but I think it is the best route to go. The other choice was to borrow someone's gas barbeque, take it out to the middle of a field and start it up with the rounds inside. That should give me enough time to get far away and watch the show. The only problem is that no one will lend me their barbeque
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Mike Oxbig
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- Scarborough Ontario
I've got an extra BBQ I'd be willing to donate for such an experiment!Thanks for all the feedback. I am taking the cautious approach and going through the police to get them taken care of. Since the 2 in question (no 1 and 2) haven't been fired, I think it's unlikely that they have been loaded. I would think it would be next to impossible to get live explosives off a military base, but I don't want to take the risk. I sort of like where my house is currently sitting...
This is a very painful choice for me, since I am a self declared milsurp addict. I hate to have them destroyed, but I think it is the best route to go. The other choice was to borrow someone's gas barbeque, take it out to the middle of a field and start it up with the rounds inside. That should give me enough time to get far away and watch the show. The only problem is that no one will lend me their barbeque
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- pallisers triangle
i had a similar experiance a few years back. was at the leth gunshow, had my tables and was happy. saw an older fella come in the door with a bag of stuff. he looked a bit lost, so i asked" what ya got in the bag?" he came over and opened it up. had a 2" morter he wanted to sell. said he had brought it back from the war. as soon as i saw the red band, and when i picked it up, and it was HEAVY, i knew i was in trouble. i turned it over and it even had the lift charge in it.
long story short, i bought it, packed it in newspaper, in a 50 cal can and brought it home. next day i thought id go berry it or throw it in the lake. i had left it outside, in the middle of the yard on the deck of an old truck. when i opened the box, i smelled a funny smell, nitro weeping out of it somewhere.
i never touched it again, called the feds. they came, and it happened to be a fellow i knew ( RCMP) and he called the DOD to send someone. they said oh yea no worryes its not live blah blah blah. the officer put me on the phone and the dod guy asked a few questions. they decided maybe they should come out.
2.5 hours later, 2 gents in uniform drove in the yard. all chipper and happy. asked where it was, all smiles. they walked over and opened the box. things got real quiet real fast. slowly closed the box and backed away.
said they didnt even want to transport it, to dangerous. asked if i owned land hear. yes i do. how far away? 1 mile. can we blow it hear? why sure you can.
so they took it very very carefully into a coulie and blew it up with some C4.
and dammit, i lost a perfectly good 50 cal can.
so the moral of the story is, i like to THINK i maybe saved someones life, had the old timer sold it to a kid, or someone who knew nothing about projectiles and such.
so unless you KNOW, be very very carefull
long story short, i bought it, packed it in newspaper, in a 50 cal can and brought it home. next day i thought id go berry it or throw it in the lake. i had left it outside, in the middle of the yard on the deck of an old truck. when i opened the box, i smelled a funny smell, nitro weeping out of it somewhere.
i never touched it again, called the feds. they came, and it happened to be a fellow i knew ( RCMP) and he called the DOD to send someone. they said oh yea no worryes its not live blah blah blah. the officer put me on the phone and the dod guy asked a few questions. they decided maybe they should come out.
2.5 hours later, 2 gents in uniform drove in the yard. all chipper and happy. asked where it was, all smiles. they walked over and opened the box. things got real quiet real fast. slowly closed the box and backed away.
said they didnt even want to transport it, to dangerous. asked if i owned land hear. yes i do. how far away? 1 mile. can we blow it hear? why sure you can.
so they took it very very carefully into a coulie and blew it up with some C4.
and dammit, i lost a perfectly good 50 cal can.
so the moral of the story is, i like to THINK i maybe saved someones life, had the old timer sold it to a kid, or someone who knew nothing about projectiles and such.
so unless you KNOW, be very very carefull
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- WMU248 near Edmonton
you shoul of asked them for one to replace the one you lost, bet they would have been able to get you a really nice almost new one or 2 
NOV 4 th , vancouver
.The Department of National Defence has been called in to deal with a pair of unexploded munitions shells found near a Burnaby, B.C., high school Wednesday.
RCMP were called to an alley near Alpha Secondary School around 3:15 p.m. after someone stumbled across the two shells, Corporal Ted De Jager said.
They were found in an area of the alley, which runs west from the school between Parker Street and Venables Street, where residents leave their garbage, he said.
“They were just sitting there,” Cpl. De Jager said. “We're trying to determine what houses, if any of those houses, were associated with them.”
A 911 caller described them as mortars, while Cpl. De Jager said they look like large bullets.
So , did you get your neighbourhood evacuated ?????
.The Department of National Defence has been called in to deal with a pair of unexploded munitions shells found near a Burnaby, B.C., high school Wednesday.
RCMP were called to an alley near Alpha Secondary School around 3:15 p.m. after someone stumbled across the two shells, Corporal Ted De Jager said.
They were found in an area of the alley, which runs west from the school between Parker Street and Venables Street, where residents leave their garbage, he said.
“They were just sitting there,” Cpl. De Jager said. “We're trying to determine what houses, if any of those houses, were associated with them.”
A 911 caller described them as mortars, while Cpl. De Jager said they look like large bullets.
So , did you get your neighbourhood evacuated ?????
I DON'T LIVE IN BC!
A couple of nice fellows in green camo with a big white truck came to my house yesterday and took the rounds away. I was sad to see them go, since they will probably get "blowed up", but better under controlled circumstances than in my yard.
By the way, RyanC, try reading the whole post before you go to town on someone with your "Darwin" comments. If you had, you may have read that I had already arranged to have them taken care of. No robots, by the way. They just picked them up in their hands and took them to the truck. The whole affair was very anticlimatic, which is a good thing.
A couple of nice fellows in green camo with a big white truck came to my house yesterday and took the rounds away. I was sad to see them go, since they will probably get "blowed up", but better under controlled circumstances than in my yard.
By the way, RyanC, try reading the whole post before you go to town on someone with your "Darwin" comments. If you had, you may have read that I had already arranged to have them taken care of. No robots, by the way. They just picked them up in their hands and took them to the truck. The whole affair was very anticlimatic, which is a good thing.
