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Why is this model (to the best of my knowledge) classified as a restricted firearm??

It DOES look like an AR 15, but the operating system is different (short piston vs direct impingement), so one would think that this wouldn't qualify as a variant of the AR 15 platform. Is this just another example of the RCMP Firearms Lab deciding this firearm has no place outside of an approved range, or is there another reason?

Maybe someone who imports firearms from the US can chime in with the answer?
 
My guess is because the lower isn't any different from any other AR-15. Even a crossbow upper on a AR-15 lower will be restricted, so it probably doesn't matter what design is on top.
 
The upper is not the registered part on an AR15. The LOWER is. Don;t try to think too hard about why the CFC does the stupid things it does, you'll only get an anyeurism.
 
It just kind of hit me....

What if you designed a lower that took only proprietary trigger parts, buffer, mag catch etc... that would accept AR15 uppers.

You think it would get classified as an AR15 also :p
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F22_RaptoR said:
It just kind of hit me....

What if you designed a lower that took only proprietary trigger parts, buffer, mag catch etc... that would accept AR15 uppers.

You think it would get classified as an AR15 also :p
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If it accepts an AR15 upper, it is an AR15. This is straight from the RCMP firearms forensics lab techs.
 
The versatility of the AR platform is it's own down fall, because you can change the upper in less than a minute, there is no way the CFC can control the length of barrel effectively. so it is really simple to just classified the whole lot as restricted.
 
hbean said:
The versatility of the AR platform is it's own down fall, because you can change the upper in less than a minute, there is no way the CFC can control the length of barrel effectively. so it is really simple to just classified the whole lot as restricted.
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That is not the reason.

If it was, explain the Swiss Arms rifles. The AR15 is restricted because there were too many owners to make it prohibited.
 
Yep my thought exactly, the AR-15 went restricted only mainly because of service rifle matches and the fact their were allot of them in Canada.
 
Armedsask said:
That is not the reason.

If it was, explain the Swiss Arms rifles. The AR15 is restricted because there were too many owners to make it prohibited.
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as soon as every company out there jumps on the band wagon and start to making SA CQB uppers, so everyone can built a SA from scratch, you and I can both guess what will happen next :)
 
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing here, but the Swiss rifles are much harder to alter the barrel length the simply swapping uppers like the AR. With the Swiss Arms rifles the upper is the registered component, so you can't simply switch uppers and have a shorter rifle for a day...the upper IS the rifle.
 
angryeyebrows said:
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing here, but the Swiss rifles are much harder to alter the barrel length the simply swapping uppers like the AR. With the Swiss Arms rifles the upper is the registered component, so you can't simply switch uppers and have a shorter rifle for a day...the upper IS the rifle.
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That is good to know, thanks
 
angryeyebrows said:
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing here, but the Swiss rifles are much harder to alter the barrel length the simply swapping uppers like the AR. With the Swiss Arms rifles the upper is the registered component, so you can't simply switch uppers and have a shorter rifle for a day...the upper IS the rifle.
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Yeah, I completely forgot the upper the was the firearm.

My comment still stands though, the ease to change barrel lengths was not a major reason they went restricted.
 
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