Stevens O/U

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I was just on savage arms website and stumbled across that stevens over under i am just wondering if anyone has any experience with these shotguns and if they are worth the money. I know they are very fair priced but are they good for the money
 
This gun is quite new to the market and seems don't have much reviews. I've been looking for those inexpensive O/U for a while, the other one is Lanber but don't know who sell them in Canada. But anything from Savage won't be bad for the price.

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From the Shotgunworld forum:

I. Rizzini (F.A.I.R.) The company was founded in 1971 by Isadoro Rizzini, a brother of Battista and Emilio Rizzini. Originally named Fabbrica Armi Isidoro Rizzini, it was later called F.A.I.R. Tecni-Mec I. Rizzini and is now named F.A.I.R. S.r.l. At one time they were imported to the US by New England Arms Corp, but I’m not sure what the importation arrangement is now, for the guns bearing the F.A.I.R. brand. For several years BC Outdoors imported and distributed them under the brand name of Verona. (Verona semi-automatics were not made by F.A.I.R.) BC Outdoors recently stopped distributing them, and the last report I had is that F.A.I.R. is looking for a new importer, but it is not clear (to me, anyway) whether the new importer will use the Verona name or the F.A.I.R. name. As I write this (Feb 16, 2005) there is a rumor going around that the new "Milano" O/U shotguns by Savage are made by F.A.I.R., although they may be higher grades than the guns formerly sold by BC Outdoors as Veronas.

Update 2/20/06: It seems certain now that The Savage Milano is made by F.A.I.R. and they are higher grades than the Veronas. Cabela's Gun Library is selling a large batch of F.A.I.R. guns from New England Arms, apparently liquidating their remaining inventory. It would seem that Savage thus becomes the sole source of F.A.I.R.'s in the US.

Like most manufacturers, F.A.I.R. is capable of making guns to a variety of quality and price levels. The Verona guns are relatively inexpensive, but have a reputation for being a good value for the money. Some of the F.A.I.R. branded guns are of higher cost and quality than the Veronas, but on average they are considered to be of lower quality than those made by B. Rizzini.

F.A.I.R. (Italy) http://www.fair.it/

Lanber are Spanish made and considered to be solid quality from what I've read. If it were me I'd just get the F.A.I.R., but would also consider the stretch to a B. Rizzini Atremis Classic.
 
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stevens over under is made in turkey therefore it is probly junk

Actually in Brescia Italy as per their brochure which would confirm they're made by F.A.I.R. (I. Rizzini), they do have a Turkish Walnut stock however. :)
 
stevens 512 20 guage over/under

I bought mine in October of 2008 and love the gun it handles nice and love the good looking wood. The only problem I had so far is the top barrel did not fire on a few occasions and now the pin has dropped out.. sent in for repair and when it comes back and if there are no other things go wrong, I will still love the gun. For the money I PAID 630.00 and not bad for a gun that is fun to shoot. Hope this honest answer helps.
 
I really agree with you that they are a good looking gun and for the most part handle and shoot finel. I think savage corp. is a quality company and in this day and age have to try and market and reasonably made gun at a good price for consumers to buy there brand, I still like my cheap but nice looking 20 guage over/under, buy the way I cannot aford a 2500. shotgun. especially just getting back into the gun buying deal again.
 
Actually in Brescia Italy as per their brochure which would confirm they're made by F.A.I.R. (I. Rizzini), they do have a Turkish Walnut stock however. :)
There are two Stevens O/U's one , the 512, IS made in turkey, and a decent economy shotgun.
the other, the Milano, IS made by F.A.I.R.

I bought a 512 just to try it, and shot 8 rounds of skeet with it.
Nice little gun for the price, but it would not stand up to a steady diet of skeet every weekend.
it would however, be quite alright for birds every now and then.
The 512 I had was a 28 gauge.
There is NO sense comparing a 512 to a Milano however, because the F.A.I.R. is a much higher quality shotgun- I know, as I own four of them and have shot many thousands of rounds out of my 20 gauge .

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ive also been looking for a cheap O/U 20ga
stumbled upon the stoeger condor which is MSRP 399USD, I don't know where to find one though
remington also has a cheap line of O/U the SPR310 and IIRC they were around the same price though remington removed MSRPs from their website so im not a 100% sure
 
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512 goldwing 20 guage o/u

Got mine back from Reliable Gun and they fixed the top, they actually made a new firing pin for it. And said it should be better than the oringinal one for sure. It works great and have had not one problem since, gone through a box or two now. I AGREE that the gun is most not suited for constant clay shooting and is best for the odd duck and grouse hunt whenever that happens. Good Luck.
 
512 Goldwing 28 gauge

I went through the same process last year, looking for a reasonably priced O/U of reasonable quality. I bought the Stevens 512 Goldwing in 28 gauge for $550 from my local dealer. This is not a Kriegoff (spelling??) and I wont lie to you that it is. It is however, in my opinion a solid working gun that has given me no trouble what so ever, this far. I have about 2 cases of ammo through it, all hunting and informal clay pigeon shooting (the back yard variety). It has nice wood, metal is good, and the wood/metal fitting seems good too. It has killed woodcock, grouse and pheasants with authority, and a porcupine too. I am very pleased with this purchase and I am thinking of picking up another one in either 12 or 20 gauge so that I might use it for ducks and geese.

The down sides to this gun is the action is a bit tight, the empty hulls are extracted and not ejected (many prefer extraction only as it saves chasing hulls for reloading), and the safety switch is a bit tight too. I have found that it is getting a bit smoother with use, but it has a long way to go to get as smooth as a higher priced gun. You get what you pay for, but I believe this to be good value for the price I paid.
 
Stevens

I have a lot of interest in the Stevens 512 Goldwing in 20 gauge with 26" barrels for small game. It seems like a nicer gun quality wise than the Mossberg Silver Reserve and the Stoeger Condor. I just have some newby questions about it, bare with me as I am new to O/U.

So it has one trigger and a selective switch on the back to select which barrel shoots? Can I just pull the trigger twice and it will fire twice or do you have to shoot one barrel and then push the switch for the next shot?

Does it have auto ejectors meaning if you break it the spent shells will fly our or do the just come out a bit and you have to pull them out the rest of the way?

Do both barrels have sqrew in chokes? So essentially I can have 2 full chokes or 2 mods or one of each? Does anyone know the length of pull or the drop at heel and comb? And as a 20 gauge this gun weighs 6.7lbs right?

Is is a better gun that the Stoeger and Mossberg fit/finish wise, im looking for a light use clay and weekend small game hunting gun. Thanks
 
You can buy the FAIR gun from Will Bilozer at less than the Savage Milano. The Gold Wilge are full of problems -- A kid at our club had his in for service 9 times in 1 year before he gave up on it (trigger, fireing pin, spring, bl selector problems) Finally bought a Yildiz and the problems ended>
 
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Lanber are Spanish made and considered to be solid quality from what I've read. If it were me I'd just get the F.A.I.R., but would also consider the stretch to a B. Rizzini Atremis Classic.

This is for a milano not a stevens......VERY VERY DIFFERENT GUNS......poor write ups and reviews on stevens, excellent reviews on milanos!!

Itallian craftsmanship vs turkish!!
 
I have a lot of interest in the Stevens 512 Goldwing in 20 gauge with 26" barrels for small game. It seems like a nicer gun quality wise than the Mossberg Silver Reserve and the Stoeger Condor. I just have some newby questions about it, bare with me as I am new to O/U.

So it has one trigger and a selective switch on the back to select which barrel shoots? Can I just pull the trigger twice and it will fire twice or do you have to shoot one barrel and then push the switch for the next shot?

Does it have auto ejectors meaning if you break it the spent shells will fly our or do the just come out a bit and you have to pull them out the rest of the way?

Do both barrels have sqrew in chokes? So essentially I can have 2 full chokes or 2 mods or one of each? Does anyone know the length of pull or the drop at heel and comb? And as a 20 gauge this gun weighs 6.7lbs right?

Is is a better gun that the Stoeger and Mossberg fit/finish wise, im looking for a light use clay and weekend small game hunting gun. Thanks

You select which barrel fires first, the other barrel automatically fires on the second pull of the trigger.

This gun has EXTRACTORS only, meaning you have to manually remove the spent hulls.

Both barrels have interchangeable chokes, and the gun comes with 5 tubes; cylinder, improved cylinder, modified, improved modified, and full.

I don't know the weight of the 20 gauge, but my 28 weighs 6.3 lbs on my digital scales.

Sorry, I do not know how to accurately measure LOP and the drops at heel and comb.

I have only briefly handled the Stoeger and the Mossberg but I find the quality is similar.

Hope this helps!!
 
Just an FYI, Olychick Sports in Burnaby, BC has become the FAIR importer. I just saw a few at the HACS show this weekend and they are beautiful...
 
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