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My father gave me a Box with this ammo in it the other day can anyone help me determine what they are???

On the Shot Gun Shells they are 2 3/4 I really just wonder if they are Steel or Lead.

Shotgun Shell Mag 4 Stamped on it.

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Shotgun Shell Mag 5 Stamped on it.

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This Catridge I have no idea what it is for.
Stamped on it is Dominion - 6.5 M. Sch

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Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Got a magnet? Can't say for sure about the first pic but the second one is lead for sure it is an old Imperial shotgun shell. Later Imperials did not have the grooves on the brass base.
 
Regarding the 12 Ga ammo, there is very little chances it could be steel (especially if they're not marked as such). But I agree with the "magnet technique".

Here's what the box of the 6.5 M-S should like.

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It was loaded with 160 grains bullets.
 
1. Remington lead #4 shot, magnum (meaning not a light target load)
2. CIL (or Imperial-same thing) lead #5 shot, magnum (again, not a light target load)
3. Cartridge is definately a 6.5x54 Mannlicher Schauner.
 
1. Remington lead #4 shot, magnum (meaning not a light target load)
2. CIL (or Imperial-same thing) lead #5 shot, magnum (again, not a light target load)

Yep, exactly as L-H described. And yes, both are lead shot, manufactured a couple decades before steel shot was first used.

We still have some of the exact same shells. Were using them this fall hunting pheasants. Depending on the vintage, the CIL/Imperial might not even have a shot cup, just a fibre wad under the shot.
 
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