CheyTac .408 M200 Intervention?

you could build a half-dozen custom 408's for the retail price of one of these rifles and they would all shoot as well - likely better .
 
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here ;)

Obtunded said:
you could build a half-dozen custom 408's for the retail price of one of these rifles and they would all shoot as well - likely better .
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Are you sure about that? Here are some claims from WikiPedia:

The CheyTac M-200 holds the world record for best group at a distance, landing 3 bullets within 16-5/8 inches (42.2 cm) at 2321 yards (2122 m) near Arco in Idaho.
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Groups of 7 - 9 inches (17.8 - 22.9 cm) at 1000 yards (914 m), 10 inch (25.4 cm) at 1500 yards (1372 m) and 15 inch (38.1) cm at 2000 yards (1829 m) have been consistently obtained.
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Groups of 19 inch (48.3 cm) at 2100 yards (1920 m) and 29 inch (73.7 cm) at 2400 yards (2195 m) have also been obtained. All groups that are up to 3000 yards (2743 m) are less than 1 Minute of Angle for vertical dispersion.
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And bear in mind that it's a mag-fed field rifle, not some petastal-mounted single-round-fed benchrest contraption...

Is there any truth to these claims? They're all coming from Chey-Tac... Is this just marketing BS?
 
redman said:
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here ;)



Are you sure about that? Here are some claims from WikiPedia:







And bear in mind that it's a mag-fed field rifle, not some petastal-mounted single-round-fed benchrest contraption...

Is there any truth to these claims? They're all coming from Chey-Tac... Is this just marketing BS?
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My 50BMG hunting rifle is capable of consistant 6" groups at 1000 yards so I am unimpressed. I have several other 50 cal rifles that are owned by CGN forum members who also seem to have no problem keeping well under moa groups. Best I can think of is just over 2" at 1000 yards, pics were posted here on CGN some time back.
My best to date with any of my 50s is 5 shots into the bottom of a 45 gal drum on end at 2 measured miles (3520 yards)

Do NOT believe everything on wikipedia, alot of it is unsubstantiated.
 
Well, as I mentioned in my post, the claims were apparently made in CheyTac promotional materials (although the links are all dead - go figure).

As I recall, though, you make single-action .50 cal. rifles with chambers having match tolerances; is this an apples to apples comparison with the M200? From having sold one, I suspect you have much insight ;)
 
redman said:
As I recall, though, you make single-action .50 cal. rifles with chambers having match tolerances; is this an apples to apples comparison with the M200? From having sold one, I suspect you have much insight ;)
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I would hazard a guess that the M200 are high tolerance hand built machines as well.
Each bullet is spun to achieve the high .BC they claim.

I think ATRS would have no trouble building a comparable rifle - or already does - but he hasn't gone after Mil. / L.E contracts or T.V shows and it wouldn't look as cool as the M200.:p

He can keep the price down that way..............:sniper:
 
timoram said:
Someone has been playing mw2 lol
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No that isn't it, I don't play video games. With a young family at home and work I don't have time to do that.

I'm looking to get back into range shooting, I haven't done it very much since the early 90's. I sold my AR-15 a few years back and bought another hunting rifle (Marlin 1895GS) as I wasn't going to the range anymore so I figured sell it and get a good brush gun. I've been reloading for about 17 or 18 years and really enjoy shooting when I get a chance.

As I said I'm looking to get back into shooting and would like to get a good quality rifle and a friend told me about this rifle he saw on TV so I did a search on this site to rule it out if not available here, and the only thing that came up was a picture a guy posted with a few rifles on a table. It was mostly a curiosity to see if it was available here in Canada.

Great information posted and with reading other threads this will be to expensive to feed even if I could convince the Mrs. to part with the money for the rifle itself. More reading for me to do on this fine site....
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
It was a culmination of a weekends shooting to get the comeups right. Once dialed in and confirmed 5 for 5
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Awesome. :cheers:

Now how 'bout the below? :p

redman said:
Well, as I mentioned in my post, the claims were apparently made in CheyTac promotional materials (although the links are all dead - go figure).

As I recall, though, you make single-action .50 cal. rifles with chambers having match tolerances; is this an apples to apples comparison with the M200? From having sold one, I suspect you have much insight ;)
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redman said:
Awesome. :cheers:

Now how 'bout the below? :p
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As you know, currently all I build in a 50 cal is singleshot, but my hunting rifle is a 21 lb rifle which is about the same as the Cheytac rifle weighs.
I would suspect that they try to put the same care and attention to detail into their rifles as I do.
The fact that they have a mag fed rifle I think is irrelevant as far as accuracy goes.
I also after speaking several times to folks at Cheytac while at the various SHOT shows believe there is a certain amount of "smoke and mirrors" at work here, some of what I have been told I find VERY hard to swallow.
Why they chose to compare their rifle with match loads to surplus 50 cal for ballistic comparison eludes me. To me an apples to apples type comparison should be used, and to date it has not been done publicly.
Having shot both calibers a fair bit still feel that everything a 408 can do a 50 can do better. I will grant that those who are more recoil sensitive may find the 408 has an advantage there, but only marginally.
Brass life is about the same for both, bullet availability in Canada is better for the 50, primer availability is better for the 408.
 
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