Thinking of buying an FN Five Seven

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Anyone have any experience with these?

I currently own a CZ 75 SP01 9mm, which I think is great, and have shot more than 3000 rounds through it.

-Is the ammo hard to find with the five sevens? ( I bet it is expensive too )
-How is there make ( quality ) on the long run? Reliable?
-Are there any new variations of it made? or planning to be made?

What else do I need to know before purchasing?

Thanks guys
 
ammo has been a real problem for most people, i hear that they will sell you 1000 rounds when you buy one but after that your left up to your own devices.... though one dealre on here (questar maybe?) had spoken of getting some more ammo in but dont expect it to be cheap.
 
Yup. It is getting stupid out there with calibres. These guys need a boot up the arse too - putting guns on the market where ammo is almost unobtainable, loading dies and data are the same, and components ditto...

Unless you are a collector I would stay away from it.
 
I hear you can't use it for some competitive shooting due to bullet diameter minimums that it does not comply with.

In my opinion it's a weak round that depends on it's armour-piercing potential (not found in the sporting round) and large volume of fire to deliver it's energy to the target, which it does nicely by having little recoil and large mag capacity due to small size (the non-bastardised mags for the Five-seveN hold 20 rounds) of the ammo.

My verdict: Not worth it, but, I have never shot it, I have only compared it to other rounds with the raw data behind the round, so other people might have a different opinion.
 
I remember someone telling me , firing the five seven is like firing a .22 on steroids.

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Though i still havent seen any responses on "durability" ,
I remember holding it and realizing how light it is, practically all polymer...
 
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I remember someone telling me , firing the five seven is like firing a .22 on steroids.

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Though i still havent seen any responses on "durability" ,
I remember holding it and realizing how light it is, practically all polymer...
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well look at other polymer guns on the market they hold up well.... its not like its a cartridge that had a heavy recoil and would stress the frame of the gun..... anyways with the cost of ammo i some how doubt you will ever manage to wear it out
 
Apparently, if you have enough brass, they are quite easy to reload (Using .224 rifle bullets).

As for comparing it to other rounds, the fairest comparison would probably be .22 Hornet.
 
FN Five-Seven....

Shot one ~ 10 years ago when some FN reps came out to BC to do a demo.

One word to describe the experience..... "meh". :p

Nothing about them makes me want to have one, now.

I did notice on my last trip to Vegas that the big Bass Pro store south of the strip had cases of five-seven ammo for ~ $20 US per box of 50. Would kinda make some sense to own one if at least the ammo was available and fairly reasonably priced.

My .02

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I wander what Ft. Hood did for sales of this firearm? It has now sadly proven to be very effective. I cannot think of another massacre with such a high fatality ratio.
 
The flame that comes out the muzzle is pretty cool and the recoil is minimal. Its a great handgun to impress noobs with. If you put a WTB in the ammunition EE, you're bound to find a few sources. However, you're going to pay about $1.50-$2.50/round. For the price of the handgun and ammunition, you have a lot of other options. I have 2 - the single action tactical and the DAO. I prefer the S.A. tactical version, but both operate flawlessly.
 
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The flame that comes out the muzzle is pretty cool and the recoil is minimal. Its a great handgun to impress noobs with. If you put a WTB in the ammunition EE, you're bound to find a few sources. However, you're going to pay about $3-$4/round. For the price of the handgun and ammunition, you have a lot of other options. I have 2 - the single action tactical and the DAO. I prefer the S.A. tactical version, but both operate flawlessly.
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$3-4 A ROUND?

Sweet Jesus that's pricey.
 
mopix said:
I wander what Ft. Hood did for sales of this firearm? It has now sadly proven to be very effective. I cannot think of another massacre with such a high fatality ratio.
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30 of the 43 people shot survived and the remaining 13 died. I don't think this speaks highly of the efficacy of the 5.7x28. This cartridge has inferior wounding capacity even to 9mm FMJ or .38 Special LRN cartridges.
 
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30 of the 43 people shot survived and the remaining 13 died. I don't think this speaks highly of the efficacy of the 5.7x28. This cartridge has inferior wounding capacity even to 9mm FMJ or .38 Special LRN cartridges.
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Even to 9mm? 9mm is really a bothersome cartridge. Everyone seems to be using it but frankly I am troubled by its limitations as this is the fourth story in about 3 months I have read where a 9mm has been used with limited success in a critical incident. How can you trust it? 4 shots to take down the bad guy at Fort Hood and he survives? A 240lb+ man cannot be stopped with a 9mm firearm, not right away, not without a well-placed shot and good luck reliably getting that with a 5.7x28 flying at your ears. A 240lb. man shot with 9mm centre of mass will still keep coming! That officer, despite her years of training and her youth, could not find a mark that would make a difference, not right away. It took four shots just to bring him to heal and they took him away in an ambulance, not a hearse!

"Of the bullets that attain desired penetration, those of larger diameter are most effective, crushing more tissue."
Comparitive Performance of 9mm Parabelum, RCMP
http://www.css.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/cprc/tr/tr-1995-01.pdf

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Contract said:
Anyone have any experience with these?

-Is the ammo hard to find with the five sevens? ( I bet it is expensive too )
-How is there make ( quality ) on the long run? Reliable?
-Are there any new variations of it made? or planning to be made?

What else do I need to know before purchasing?

Thanks guys
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-Yes, loaded ammo and components are very hard to find and very expensive.
-quality is comparible to other polymer service pistols (glock etc). I experienced 100% reliability with a USG variant in 700 rounds fired.
-The USG is the current production variation. The only planned update is a fixed sight USG.

Before purchasing, I'd say that you need to ask yourself if the interest/curiosity value is worth the high purchase price and ammunition cost to YOU. If so, go out and buy one. If you are solely interested in the "merits" of the 5.7 cartridge, you may be disappointed.
 
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Even to 9mm? 9mm is really a bothersome cartridge. Everyone seems to be using it but frankly I am troubled by its limitations as this is the fourth story in about 3 months I have read where a 9mm has been used with limited success in a critical incident. How can you trust it? 4 shots to take down the bad guy at Fort Hood and he survives? A 240lb+ man cannot be stopped with a 9mm firearm, not right away, not without a well-placed shot and good luck reliably getting that with a 5.7x28 flying at your ears. A 240lb. man shot with 9mm centre of mass will still keep coming! That officer, despite her years of training and her youth, could not find a mark that would make a difference, not right away. It took four shots just to bring him to heal and they took him away in an ambulance, not a hearse!

"Of the bullets that attain desired penetration, those of larger diameter are most effective, crushing more tissue."
Comparitive Performance of 9mm Parabelum, RCMP
http://www.css.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/cprc/tr/tr-1995-01.pdf

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Yes, even 9mm ball disrupts more tissue than 5.7mm. 5.7x28mm is most equivalent to .22 WMR from a ballistics standpoint. With good expanding bullets, the comparison is even more lopsided in favour of the 9mm or any other conventional pistol cartridge. Generally speaking, the 5.7x28mm round is held in very low regard by those who study wound ballistics professionally.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19913

Certainly, given comparable bullet construction, bigger calibres will crush more tissue, but no handgun (or rifle) can can guarantee instant incapacitation, save for hits to the central nervous system.

Remember, game animals that are mortally wounded through the heart may still run a surprising distance before blood loss shuts them down.
 
I wander what Ft. Hood did for sales of this firearm? It has now sadly proven to be very effective. I cannot think of another massacre with such a high fatality ratio.
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Spree killings are not a good way to measure the effectiveness of a firearm. The results are all over the place. Let us compare:

Kimveer Gill(Polytechnique):
Firearms: Cx4 Storm & Glock (both 9mm)
Result: 19 wounded, 1 death

Seung-Hui Cho(V-Tech):
Firearms: Walther P22 (.22) and Glock 19 (9mm)
Result: 25 injured, 32 death

Martin Bryant (Port Arthur):
Firearm: AR-15
Result: In the cafe alone, he fired 29 rounds killing 22 and wounding 11.
(Bryant did much more after the cafe)

French Soldier (Name not released):
Firearm: FAMAS (5.56) fired full auto into a crowd of civilians at relatively close range.
Result: 16 Wounded, no fatalities

So looking at these incidents, you have some 9mm school shootings and a pair of 5.56 shootings. The results are totally inconclusive because you simply cannot measure the effectiveness of a particular bullet size or a firearm based on fatality counts from public shootings. There are simply too many factors involved.
 
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