Got my eye on 2 hunting rifles need help making a decision

no contest...get the Winchester...the Tikka is a plastic POS...OK, a plastic POS that shoots.....the Win 70 is a lot of rifle for the money...all steel and a real stock.
 
Ok I have pretty come to a decision. I am getting the Winchester model 70 in stainless SS all weather extreme in 30-06. I have handled both guns and it just feels right to me. When I pick up the Tikka it just does not feel right. I don't know how to explain it. All the plastic etc as strong or as weak as it may be and opinions aside it is just not the gun for me. When I pick up the Winchester something clicks and it just feels right. So this hunters choice this can be chalked up as a win for winchester (granted it was a long decision making process). So thank you guys for all the information and opinions. As a side note one day I can see myself getting a smaller caliber .223 for target shooting and one of the first guns I will look at will be the Tikka. But lets be honest after looking at the Tikka I will put it down and buy a savage that shoots 2X as good for 1/2 the price.

-I have made my choice so this thread has served it's purpose. Might as well rowl up some of those mis-directed, tik tak sucking, plastic loving, guys that bought a gun from Finland with more plastic parts than a remington 710/770.
 
no contest...get the Winchester...the Tikka is a plastic POS...OK, a plastic POS that shoots.....the Win 70 is a lot of rifle for the money...all steel and a real stock.

Well said...get the rifleman's rifle.
 
I would suggest going into the store wearing what you normally would hunting, close your eyes and shoulder each rifle several times. Which ever feels best to you should be the one you buy. 30-06 should be able to do everything you need it to.
 
No M70 action is as smooth as a Tikka... Period. I have shot both this week.

Sure it is nice to have an ultra smooth feeling action but at the end of the day does it really matter? I have a savage that feels like I am sliding concrete across concrete. But it never fails to load and is a consistent sub MOA rifle that out shoots most every factory rifle I have eve touched. So what if it is 5% less smooth.
 
I would prefer a smooth action and that is one of the key selling points of the TIKKA. I think most big game hunters would agree. I think the M70's are overated...
 
Sure it is nice to have an ultra smooth feeling action but at the end of the day does it really matter? I have a savage that feels like I am sliding concrete across concrete. But it never fails to load and is a consistent sub MOA rifle that out shoots most every factory rifle I have eve touched. So what if it is 5% less smooth.


Well glad you have made your choice, please let us all know how this rifle shoots? Might be lots of guys thinking about buying one of these, so your range report will be handy. FS
 
Well glad you have made your choice, please let us all know how this rifle shoots? Might be lots of guys thinking about buying one of these, so your range report will be handy. FS

X2.

The various individual brands of hunting rifles available today (more specifically the models built at certain price points) will always generate for/against arguments. I would say the Tikka is just one such rifle - neither too bad nor too good :) but just sufficient enough from an overall build quality perspective to well suit the general mass of hunters/shooters.

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Does the model 70 have a 60 degree throw on the bolt like the Tikka does? Something to consider in addition to the silky smoothness is the short throw. Do you really want a heavy, wooden stock to lug around the woods all day while hunting?
In my experience Tikkas shoot as accurate as any Savage out of the box and don't have the long throws that the Savages do. In fact, I have yet to see a Tikka outperformed when it comes to accuracy by anything stock.
I have a T3 Varmint that I would stack up against anything, but if you are smitten with the M 70 that's cool.
 
Well I am 9 days away from finishing trade school and getting that trade completion grant to throw down on a rifle. I was set on the model 70 but little bits of info are starting to pop up on the internet about accuracy issues. some people are getting 1.5 to 2 moa at 100 yards and then going over to their other guns and proving they can shoot better than that. Anyone got some other suggestions other than tikka?
 
Id go with a Remington 700, whats the model 70 you where talking about worth i am looking for a riffle stainless synthetic prefrerably with a fluted barrel in a 25-05 but they are hard to find. Here is a pretty crittical look at a tikka.. http://www.chuckhawks.com/critical_look_T3.htm

Yeah I read that article. He sure hates the tikka's. I think he wrote something after that taking back some of what he said. The model 70 I am talking about is around $1000, the tikka is about $850. As far as my choice well, I have flip flopped back and forth soooooo much on this one. I finish my course at school in 2 days and get a big fat check from the government to spend on this rifle after that so I gotta choose. First off as for your suggestion of a remington 700, I am going to have to say that is not an option. I have hade a 700 before it was crap. I am now thinking tikka because of some issues I am hearing with the model 70's accuracy. The coin is still flipping though......
 
haha yea i am finishing up my second year carpentry and did first second back to back so getting some money for it pretty soon. looking to buy a new riffle in a .243 or 25-06 still not sure what i want either. i have heard from a ton of people that the remington action is the probably the best, but have heard some issues with accuracy lately and their barrels arent free floated on some and the bedding isnt very good also so idn. mostly on the sps models though.
 
Let's not forget the Model 70 Black Shadow.

What's a true synthetic? The oh-so-fantastic Bell & Carlson is 1 step up from Ram-Line. :D

Ultimate shadow?

I agree! 150%

I do not like the M-70 Shadow at all..

The plastic shroud like archie did say was a bad idea, but they all have there flaws

I have never had an issue with the bolt shrouds...but will agree was a silly thing to do..

The Tikka rifles do not need bedding to shoot sub moa!

So what happens if the bolt shroud does break.....will it not still work.

There's a lot of good in having 2 rifles chambered for the same cartridge.

A short action is about 1/4 lb lighter, and about 1/2" shorter than a long action.

The biggest plus to the short action IMO is actually having more latitude in positioning your scope. Sometimes with a long action, depending on your scope and mounts, you will need to use extension rings to make it fit.

Not a big deal as the rings/bases are widely available, but perhaps something to add to your list of pros/cons.



As far as the 3006 vs 308 thing. I could probably argue both ways as they are both great cartridges. But if you already have a 308 the 3006 broadens your horizons. Dies are maybe 40 bucks and a good used set is cheaper at a gun show.

The 3006 offers a more versatility in the weight range of bullets you can load for it. That is, the 3006 will effectively launch a heavier bullet if one chooses to do so. I think for a hunting rifle that may be desirable.

I personally don't see the 4ozs less weight and the 1/4" (or whatever it is) less bolt travel as a relevent reason to choose one over the other.

For a hunting rig I'd say go 3006.[/QUOTE]

I guess that statement stirred a ruckus........


buy what you want...it will serve you well on your journey........just dont become more discriminating :):):)
 
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