Tavor extreme cold weather work up.

I've don't that lots with an R1 and it shoots everytime. Whitetail hunitng in Sask, pushing bush, in and out of a warm truck and then walk or post in -30 for an hour is a great way to see what works in the cold. By the end of the day the layer of ice on a gun is pretty thick. I run mine mostly dry, just a light shot of g96.

Great test, good to hear the + results!
 
Figured I would post what the armorers manual says about the cold.

Cold Climate:
At temperatures below the freezing point it is essential that all weapon-recoiling parts are
moisture free. It is proved that over lubrication of the metal parts causes coagulation that
create loose operation of the mechanism and faults. Thus, after carrying out the daily service
proceed as follows:
1) Dress the rifle with muzzle cover.
2) At temperatures below -10EC, disassemble the weapon down to user-authorized level and
lubricate the metal parts with special low temperature oil.
3) Protect the rifle against rain and snow.
4) Upon completion of activities and when entering a building, dry and clean well the rifle
and re-lubricate.
 
Eezox, is good to -95, highly recommend it, it is a light oil though and would need to be used often in an ar platform, less so in a SAN. Wouldn't recommend graphite as when mixed with H20 can actually form an acid accelerating corrosion so exposure to snow and extreme temp changes (condensation) can cause a problem over the life of the rifle. Eezox really is a good solution, expensive but worth the price. Won't argue the merits of any other products as all have their place just for cold weather shooting its superb.
 
I ordered some Lubriplate Aero low-temp lithium grease to try out this winter. Primarily for my M14s, but will try it on the SKS, CZ 858 and AR as well. Hoping it does the trick as you can find it cheap online at garage door opener sites. I'll let you all know how it works out...

http://www. lubriplate.com/products/greases/aero.html

Aero

Lithium Based, Low Temperature Grease

-Outstanding compatibility with seal materials
-For applications to -60 ° F

For cold temperature applications down to -60°F. / -51°C. Provides low-torque start-up capability, excellent corrosion and oxidation resistance and wide compatibility with metals, plastic, and rubber. Excellent for garage door mechanisms.
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greentips said:
A real cold test - leave your rifle out there for a few hours, with a round chambered adn then fire.

Next, take it to a warm room, let the water condense and then take it our again to fire......
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Oh that's just nasty..........:eek:

Lessonn number 1, never bring a cold gun into a warm environment unless you intend to strip it down and dry/clean off all the condensation. And for god's sake don't leave it in the case when you bring it in also.
bigbull
 
dizzy said:
Eezox, is good to -95, highly recommend it, it is a light oil though and would need to be used often in an ar platform, less so in a SAN. Wouldn't recommend graphite as when mixed with H20 can actually form an acid accelerating corrosion so exposure to snow and extreme temp changes (condensation) can cause a problem over the life of the rifle. Eezox really is a good solution, expensive but worth the price. Won't argue the merits of any other products as all have their place just for cold weather shooting its superb.
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I cannot reccomend Eezox highly enough, I have one particular rifle that has not been lubricated in 5 years :eek:
I treated it with Eezox once and it has stood up to 5 hunting seasons (two weeks per year) in very cold (Sask. in the end of November) deer hunting environments, it is simply one of the best products I have used for keeping your gun rust free and operating in any weather. I did some testing of some very popular lubes that made all kinds of claims about their cold weather abilities, I posted it before but I will try to find it and repost again, don't believe all the hype about alot of the lubes out there!
bigbull
 
The coldest temperature I have ever shot in was last Christmas at about -12C. I used no special lubes, oils, greases, or what have you, and my 10/22, my SKSs, my M14, my Glock 19, my M93, and my maverick 88 all functioned flawlessly.
 
OK, I found the lube test I had done for low temp lubes, here you go. It is a little unsientific but it did answer my question about low temp lubrication with the lubes I had on hand at the time, this test was done on November 30, 2006 ! Newer lubes might have come into the market since but the ones I used still seem to be polpular today.

Funny you should ask about cold weather oil. I also hunt in very cold weather and have often hunted at -20c or colder. We have had alot of problems with gumming up of lubricants and some failures to fire. A few years ago I did a test of some popular lubes. My test was set up to track the consistency of the oil in cold climates, I was limited to my freeze at home for testing so the results might be different in colder climates but you could extrapolate the results. I used a metal plate that I put in the deep freeze to simulate cold steel for the lubes. I removed the plate from the freezer after a couple of hours and proceeded to place equal amounts of lube on the plate and then reinserted the whole thing back in the freezer positioned at a slight angle, after 5or10 minutes I removed the plate and compared which oil had flowed the furthest. I was shocked at how bad the oils performed in the cold even though alot of them clearly advertise a broad operating temperature range. At the time the Pro-Shot all Weather oil flowed the best, with the runners up being the Break Free, Birch. Casey Synthetic, Hoppes and the Outers. Since then I have developed a lubrication routine that has proven foolproof in the cold. I completely abandoned liquid lubes for cold weather:eek: I now use Eezox to coat the metal. This is the second year since the initial treatment without any sign of corrosion. I have not lubricated the gun in two years and it has been hunted for a total of five weeks in cold weather. The cold is not the only problem it is also prone to sweating when the firearm is brought into a warm area after spending the whole day outdoors and this is also a testament of the products corrosion protection. I had never known about Eezox until I saw a test in the 6br forum about rust preventatives and it was also the fact that the product is applied wet but then dries that attracted me to it. It is also nothing like the dry lubes most guys think about, it is actually an invisible barrier with no surface residue or dimensional changes in fact you can use it inside your barrel.
bigbull
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I hope some will find this informative.
bigbull
 
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