Marstar BushRanger Review (Pics)

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Marstar has a new shipment of their Norinco “Bushranger” rifles. These are small bolt actions, sporting either a 5.56x45 (223Rem) or a 7.62x39 barrel.

The rifles are similar, but not the same.

Overview. The rifles come in a foam-lined cardboard box. Each is dripping in gooey oil and will need a wipe down with paper towels and some brake cleaner. Don’t forget to rinse the bolt body and wipe out the inside of the mags.

The rifles are light and handy. I am guessing around 6 pounds. Both come drilled and tapped for scope bases and a set of Weaver bases are included with each rifle. They are pre-installed on the 7.62 and in the box for the 223.

The magazines are removable single stack 5 shot. They remind me of Remington 788 magazines.

The bolts look like giant 22LR bolts. Round on top, scalloped on the bottom. Each has a pair of solid locking lugs at the back (not at the front, like a Mauser.) The rear locking lugs remind me of the Remington 788. Finish on the action, barrel and bolts is good. The bolt parts carry the rifle serial number. I always like to see this, since mixing up bolts is not unusual.

The triggers are two-stage. One is superb, the other lumpy and creepy. The good one has a light but distinct movement to the second stage and then breaks crisply. It is just about perfect. The other is terrible, but because of the other, I know that after I clean the gunk out, polish the surfaces and properly lubricate, it should be perfect, too. It is advertised as fully adjustable, but I have not yet taken the action out of the stock to see what the trigger looks like.

I have used Rem788 actions to build fine target rifles. They had very fast locktime, but the ammo could not be over-loaded (as is common) because of case stretching (rear locking lugs). For a 7.62x39 shooting milsurp or the occasional commercial soft point, that would not be an issue. For a reloader making 223 varmint ammo, it is an issue to be aware of.

I have not yet taken any chamber measurements. The 7.62 throat is a bit deep. It accommodates the 150 gr bullet. The fact that the other rifle is marked 5.56 and not 223 means that the rifle has a deeper throat to tame pressures. It easily accommodates 69 gr bullets, although that bullet is too long to stabilize in the 1:12 barrel. In fact, it chambers some match ammo I have here with 80gr Sierra loaded to 2.475”. These are much too long for the magazines. So if you handload, you have a choice of seating bullets near the rifling or short enough to fit the magazine – but not both.

Both rifles are drilled and tapped for scope bases (supplied). I am guessing the threads are metric. You can buy metric screws at Crappy Tire, if needed. The 5.56 rifle has open sights. The 7.62 barrel is clean. This is puzzling. It would make more sense to me to have the open sights on the 7.62. If they were zeroed, they would be an excellent back up to the 2 ½ power scope the rifle begs for.

The open sights are Remington knock-offs. Both front and rear are held on with 2 screws. I intended to take them off the 5.56 because it will get a 10X scope for gopher hunting. Maybe I will put them on the 7.62 where they belong.

The 5.56 has a slightly longer and heavier barrel. 22 ¼” vs. 21”. It is 0.650” at the muzzle, vs. 0.550” for the 7.72. Both barrels are 0.95” at the receiver. The receivers are 1.20” diameter.

The stocks are some kind of light wood. They come pre-dinged and marked. A friend of mine recently bought the Norinco 22LR target rifle and re-finished the stock with some stain and urethane. It looks 500% better. I will do the same to these, making sure I paint the inside of the stocks with urethane, too, to make them more waterproof.

The length of pull is man-sized - about 14 ¼”.

I presume the rifles are made in the same factory – but maybe not. The 5.56 is marked “Made in China by Bisley Small Arms”. The 7.62 is simply marked “Made in China.”

Even before I fire a shot, I am impressed with these rifles. You should all buy one or two to encourage Marstar (and others) to keep up the importing of good cheap guns and ammo.

I started the thought process by thinking I would by the 5.56 rifle and replace the barrel with an old stainless steel Kreiger 1:9 This would not only be more accurate, but would shoot the 69 gr match bullets.

But now that I see that the 5.56 barrel is a little heavier, I will bed the action and give it a try. It will stabilize the 60 gr flat base HP bullet and the Sierra 63 semi-spitzer soft point. They are good enough for gophers to 200 yards.

Then I realized the 7.62 has the correct bolt face for the 6PPC, and there are lots of burned out 6mm barrels laying around. Because these rifles have small receivers, I can cut 5” off the shank of old barrels, exposing rifling in good condition.

Rdit: I mispoke when i said my friend re-finished his Norico with urethane. he used steel wool to smooth off the panted stain on the rifle and then rubbed on several coats of Lee Valley Tung Oil. It looks much nicer now.

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Very nice, go out shooting and let us know what you think :)
So far I love all the "cheap" guns I've bought and it's a great way getting my friends into it.
 
Good initial review! Thanks for the effort. Please, let us know how the shoot. I'm especially interested in the 7.62x39mm and how it shoots with surplus ammo.
 
Wow.Thanks alot for the review.Gives me a heads up on what to expect when mine arrives. Hurry up and shoot them and let us know how they do.And did you take a good look at the trigger adjustment yet?
 
my jw-103 should be here by the 30th, so far things are looking good. Which rifle had the long creeping trigger and which one had the crisp trigger? And how are the actions on both of them? I have a jw-15 and well the first one i got the action was superb but the sights are off, and the second one I had the sights were straight but the action was horrible, metal shavings were coming off the bolt lugs.
 
I had a bone stock 105 (.223) and I was very impressed with how accurate it was (shot great with WWB 45 grn). I bet it would give my bedded cz527 a run for its money. Should never have sold it.
 
The JW-105 are already sold out. Mine is one the way to me cause I expected that to happen. I will refinish the stock on mine, put a nice scope on it and bed the barrel, should be lots of fun. The JW-103 is not sold out, maybe Marstar has more of them available or people just like the SKS more as their favourite 7.62x39 caliber.
 
Good initial review... Tell me one thing though Ganderite, did your JW-103 have a rusted bore? Mine came in a couple of days ago and the damn thing looked like a sewer pipe (lots of rust & pitting inside). At first, I though it was cosmoline or some sort of a heavy grease, so I ran a patch through it... but it came out all black, dry & somewhat torn! :eek:

So, I started spraying some bore cleaner in there, and more black stuff came out (powder residue) with absolutely no grease. Apparently, despite the fact that the rifle was new, sealed in plastic & greased on the OUTSIDE, the barrel and chamber were not and were more than likely tested with corrosive surplus ammo without subsequent cleaning/greasing. After shining some light in there, I could actually see pitting and rusty color inside the bore and in the chamber.

So, anywho... hoping it was not as bad as it looked (surface rust) and being short on time to handle the return of this clearly defective merchandise, I began cleaning it throughouly with a 7.62 brush and lots & lots of cleaning solvent (because in the beginning, the brush would actually come out & make a small rusty dust cloud as soon as the cleaner dried). :eek: Eventually, it did a good job, but I still wanted to remove ALL oxidation from in there. Out came out "Evapo-Rust" and I plugged the end of the barrel on one end & filled it, then let it stand for over an hour. Sure enough, the chemical treatment did the trick (never fails, lol) and removed all leftover signs of oxidation from inside the barrel & chamber. I ran the brush a few more times and ended up with a clean & shiny bore... with a few tiny scattered pit spots, barely visible (almost like new).

I wrote Marstar (John) an e-mail regarding this situation, but I am yet to hear back from him or them. I like their product line, but advertising guns with rusted & pitted bores/chambers as "new" is not what I'd call fair game. Maybe they're not aware of this, but I remember reading another thread on CGN where someone had received their JW-103 in an exactly same condition as mine was in, and promptly returned it to Marstar for that same reason (so I guess this has happened AT LEAST once before to Marstar's knowledge).

I'll keep this one, but had I known that I'm gonna get something that has a bore similar of a beat up WW2-era Mosin-Nagant, I might've thought twice about it. It's a cheap gun though that fires cheap surplus ammo in bolt action, so it has that going for it (even if the fit, finish & especially the initial condition the gun came in aren't the greatest). Anyway, even if I were to exchange it for another, who says that the next one won't be in the same kind of shape... ?
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I have not yet cleaned the 5.56 rifle. The 7.72 was full of oil., but the crap that came out sure reminded me of cleaning a dirty barel, and there was rust, for sure. The first few patches got chewed up, too, as if the barrel was rough. This is why i will lap the barrel after the initial grouping test.

Factories typically fire about 5 shots through a new rifle to make sure it feeds, fires and extracts. Tragically, I think this factory does it with corrosive ammo and then leaves the barrels dry and uncleaned long enough for them to rust, before dipping them in oil.

I know barrel cleaning is a manual and labour intesnsive activity. In this case, all the needed was a wet water patch, a dry patch and some good oil. i don't mind a little fouling in a new rifle, but rust is not acceptable.

I have not yet stuck the borescope in their to look. To the eye, it looks ok now. I scrubbed it with RemClean.

I will send a note to Marstar, when all tests are done. It probably won't do much good. dealing with the Chinese is like push a rope...

Solutions would include hard chroming the bore; cleaning after testing and skipping the test.
 
My two Bush Ranger rifles arrived yesterday (7.62X39).Thanks Marstar. My stocks are in OK condition other then the oil or what ever is dried all over and worried that the stain they used over the very blond wood is gonna run off. The bores on both rifles were/are terrible.Looks just like you folks stated, fired with corrosive and then put in the packaging.The bore was very dry and didn't look like it had any oil put in it like the rest of the rifle.Still soaking and cleaning to see what I have.
One of the rifles, mag guide (?) and trigger assembly has mega side to side play when out of the stock where the other one is nice and tight. Also I noticed the fasteners for the scope bases are different between the two_One has hex head screws where as the other is the normal slotted type and both set protrude very high not counter sunk at all other then a minimal amount to guarantee flatness. Machining varies alot as well on the bolt way/receiver.One not to shabby the other shabby. The one that has the tight trigger assembly (to receiver) is the not too shabby one. That's it for my mini review.
 
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I see... so, as a general rule, these guns appear to come with rusted bores. I think Marstar should at the very least specify this little inconvenience. Like I said in my e-mail to them (which still wasn't answered by the way), having known that, I might've given some more serious thought about getting a CZ 527 in 7.62x39 instead. A rusted bore just plain sucks on a new gun and is unacceptable! (I just hate rust on anything, especially on/in my guns!) :mad:

Also, I have noticed that the scope mount is a bit off center... I don't know if this was done on purpose (to help clear the bolt a little better), but it most definitely is positioned a tad to the left. It is noticeable, especially once a scope mount goes on it.

Anyway, like the OP said... for the price, the main things is that the gun has to go bang. I'll add another comment though: it has to go bang and hit what you're aiming at! :shotgun:

As for the rusted bores & chambers: at the very least, an apology to swindled customers + a change in product description on Marstar's website would be the right thing to do... Wouldn't you agree? The ball is definitely in their court right now (because they were made aware of the problem)... so let's see what happens.

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I am getting less and less excited recieving mine next week. I guess it's always the same, you get what you pay for.

Look... I am not saying that it's a bad deal (I don't think any of us are). It's decently made and will more than likely perform quite well as a cheap milsurp bolt-action shooter (the price of ammo for this rifle alone is worth it).

However, it does have the rusted bore problem. I spent a bit over an hour cleaning it with a brush & bore cleaner, then eliminated all the remaining rust deposits with "Evapo-Rust" (available at Canadian Tire for 10$... and fully reusable, because you can put it back into the bottle after use for another time - the best rust remover ever!). The Evapo-Rust treatment is like magic and will remove all oxidation to bare metal, without harming any good metal. Once I've let it soak for an hour or so, I rinsed/dried the bore & chamber and ran the brush through it a few more times, and it did the trick... restored the bore to a shiny finish with strong rifling. If I didn't know better, I would've thought that the barrel was never rusted - only a few minuscule pitting spots remained in the last few inches of the bore (opposite to side from chamber).

I don't think that this required cleaning/de-rusting intervention will affect accuracy by much, if at all... of course, it would've been much better to get a new bore with this "NEW" rifle, just as it was advertised on Marstar's site (after all, it's what one would expect - you don't see too many American or European new guns coming with rusted bores & chambers, do you?). That's why I say that an apology to their customers + a change in the way they advertise the gun would be in order.

If they'd want to be real sports and leaders in the industry, they should also send each one of us a small credit (mini-refund) on this purchase for our troubles, then take it up with Norinco to get compensated in turn.

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I agree with ya 762mm,but its christmas day give them a break and I'm sure you'll hear from them in the near future. I've been working on my bores for maybe two hours each and they're still very dirty, with no sparkling new bore on the horizon. Johnone will handle it,don't worry.

I agree.. that's why I said that the ball's in their court now and that we should wait and see what happens.

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I agree with ya 762mm,but its christmas day give them a break and I'm sure you'll hear from them in the near future. I've been working on my bores for maybe two hours each and they're still very dirty, with no sparkling new bore on the horizon. Johnone will handle it,don't worry.
 
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