Actual reloading costs

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Sorry if this has been beaten to death (I did try to search)...can someone tell me what the actual reloading cost per round is for 9mm, .45, .223 and .308? I see alot of guys saying "...reload..." and giving prices but does that factor in the cost of the press, etc.? Also, what about space constraints, disposal of powder containers, etc.? I know for some it's a labour of love and I applaud you for it. However, in my case I don't seem to see a real cost saving if I'm observant and manage to find ammo during sales, etc.

That's why I ask this...am I missing something? Is there some factor I'm unaware of? I know I don't have the space for it (or time/inclination) but I'd really be interested in hearing of those that do what it actually does cost...thanks for any info (and reading this...).
 
box of 9mm = around $7 for me.

And its absolutely not worth it factoring in time and cost of equipment. My progressive press and accessories ran around $1000....that's alot of shooting to recoup those costs.

That's why I ask this...am I missing something? Is there some factor I'm unaware of? I know I don't have the space for it (or time/inclination) but I'd really be interested in hearing of those that do what it actually does cost...thanks for any info (and reading this...).

The thing your missing is the hobby aspect....deepening your understand of how ammunition works, at all steps in the firing sequence.

If however, you don't have the time or inclination, I wouldn't bother....its a lot of startup costs...sourcing components can be difficult and it would likely become a chore if you don't want to to it in the first place.

It is nice having access to ammo at any point in time though.
 
And its absolutely not worth it factoring in time and cost of equipment. My progressive press and accessories ran around $1000....that's alot of shooting to recoup those costs.


in your case, you would have paid your investment of $1000 after 5000 rounds. after that, you would be saving $10/box of 50 (i'm using the cheapest factory ammo here at about $17/box tax in) <-- canadian tire sellier and bellot. If you buy reloaded ammo, you will save for sure, I purchased factory reloaded ammo in 45acp 230grn from Canadian BDX, total came to $604 for 1600 rounds, that's 37 cents per round, i can reload my own for less than 15 cents per round (buying led cast bullets, not making them myself), that's a good savings!

if you are worried about time, once you get comfortable with reloading your own ammo, you can reload up to 1000 rounds per hour (maybe more?) on a dillon 650.

if you're only shooting 500 rounds per year or less, then i'd say buy factory ammo. everyone here knows how easy it is to go through 1000 rounds, 2 maybe 3 weeks? depending how often you shoot. When i go to the range i'll go through 200 rounds, that's 4 boxes of ammo in no time.
 
ONAGOTH;
I'm afraid I can't agree with you on costs....
I have loaded many tens of thousand of .45acp on my Dillon 1050, I use Win 231 powder and hard cast lead bullets.
Even if you figured retail on the powder 4.5grs so thats about 1500 rds per pound @ $25
or about 1.6cts/rd primers @ $28./m or 2.8cts/rd my bullets are from salvage, lead, antimony, tin, cost is nil only my labor.
So my reload are costing under 5cts/rd or less than $2.50/box
Even if you buy you lead bullets you can keep your cost at around $5./box

A few years ago I set up a DIllon 650 for .41mag, .44mag and .45lc, at the very high prices of this ammo pay back was fast indeed.
John
 
ONAGOTH;
I'm afraid I can't agree with you on costs....
I have loaded many tens of thousand of .45acp on my Dillon 1050, I use Win 231 powder and hard cast lead bullets.
Even if you figured retail on the powder 4.5grs so thats about 1500 rds per pound @ $25
or about 1.6cts/rd primers @ $28./m or 2.8cts/rd my bullets are from salvage, lead, antimony, tin, cost is nil only my labor.
So my reload are costing under 5cts/rd or less than $2.50/box
Even if you buy you lead bullets you can keep your cost at around $5./box

A few years ago I set up a DIllon 650 for .41mag, .44mag and .45lc, at the very high prices of this ammo pay back was fast indeed.
John

I did this a little while ago, but there is no way I am reloading for 2.50 - 5.00 / box. Especially so under todays crazy prices

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to make your first box, u need about $500 and alot of patience and willingness to learn. its a very time consuming start up, but the benefits are very worthwile. u save money, and accuracy is uncomperable. i reaload everything i shoot. from slugs to 223 and obsolete aswell.
 
Reloading is worthwhile for many people. It just depends what your time is worth. I use it as a get away as well as to save money. It also depends on how much you are going to shoot. If you're an occasional shooter, say less than 200 rounds per year, it isn't worth the hassle or the space it takes up. If you shoot more than that and if you can find a decent, used press, either progressive or single stage, then pay back will come about within the first 20x50 boxes. After that, you will be into cheap shooting. Many people compare the cost of shooting center fire pistol with 22rf. If you can't afford 22rf, stay away from center fire. You can't afford it.

Now, don't take this as a flame, it isn't intended as one in any way. The old adage comes to mind and is a valid point that I learned the hard way, "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it". I can understand frugality but if it's going to create hardships for your family, you can't afford it.

There are companies like BDX that offer loaded ammunition at very decent prices. Especially pistol ammunition. I bought a thousand 38spec/wadcutter from Omma in Vancouver for $125. At that price, I won't bother to reload.

Another thing, the larger the bullet diameter/weight the more expensive it gets. Johnone made some valid points. If you want it to be cheap you have to cast your own and buy components in bulk. Again, a substantial outlay of cash, depending on your circumstances and proximity to components. If you live in a rural area, the only source of cheap lead is wheel weights at the tire shop. That is if you can beat the down rigger crowd to it. There are also cast bullet manufacturers, like the Bullet Barn on Vancouver Island, they make a very good product but shipping will cut the savings way down.
If cost is a major factor, you may just be hooped, unless you can find a mentor to share his/her machine with you. That would be the ideal scenario for a newbie to get his feet wet.
A few years ago, I helped out a fellow that really wanted to get into shooting his 45acp 1911. He very diligently bought 1000 pieces of brass, primers, powder and commercial cast bullets at a local gun show. His cost was about $10/50 for his initial outlay. He still has 800 of the original batch left. He lost interest rather quickly. I admit, I don't have a progressive or automated press, just a turret press set up for pistol cartridges. It took him all of one full day to load the cartridges. He did a very good job of it to. He felt the effort wasn't worth the result. He sold his pistol and I told him to sell the cartridges as well.
 
Also keep in mind that you only ever save money reloading if you don't shoot more. All my savings are burned up through buying more components so I can shoot more regularly and in higher volume (compared to what I was shooting)
 
I did this a little while ago, but there is no way I am reloading for 2.50 - 5.00 / box. Especially so under todays crazy prices

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ok, so $6/box... still saving almost $10/box. might not seem like a lot, but multiply that by 20 boxes, then 40, then 80... it ads up, fast.
 
ok, so $6/box... still saving almost $10/box. might not seem like a lot, but multiply that by 20 boxes, then 40, then 80... it ads up, fast.

And then divide that by the factor that your shooting has increased by....in my case, at least 5x

I should say for me, the equipment costs of a decent progressive press is an easy sell....since nothing is more valuable to me than my time.
 
The more you shoot the more cost-effective reloading becomes. And don't forget; if you are a competitive shooter it may also be an advantage to be able to tune your loads to your equipment. This is something you can't do with factory ammo.

And in my case, there is no such thing as factory .38 Supercomp ammo, so reloading is essential.
 
A few years ago, I helped out a fellow that really wanted to get into shooting his 45acp 1911. He very diligently bought 1000 pieces of brass, primers, powder and commercial cast bullets at a local gun show. His cost was about $10/50 for his initial outlay. He still has 800 of the original batch left. He lost interest rather quickly. I admit, I don't have a progressive or automated press, just a turret press set up for pistol cartridges. It took him all of one full day to load the cartridges. He did a very good job of it to. He felt the effort wasn't worth the result. He sold his pistol and I told him to sell the cartridges as well.

that's a really sad story :( if he only had a progressive press, he would still be shooting, guaranteed! i admit, if the only way to reload was using a single stage press and it took me the whole day to load my ammo, then i would probably get turned off rather quick.
 
And then divide that by the factor that your shooting has increased by....in my case, at least 5x

I should say for me, the equipment costs of a decent progressive press is an easy sell....since nothing is more valuable to me than my time.

i see what you mean, just like "more money more problems" ;) more you make the more you spend. I can only go out shooting maybe 2-3 times per week. i bring a set amount of ammo to each shoot so i control my usage.

500-1000 per week does it for me. i guess ipsc shooters can go through 2000 a week easily.

imagine shooting 45acp factory ammo x 2000 /week. i don't think there are many people out there that can afford that.
 
Thanks so much for the replies guys...this really is the best forum around...

I think that reloading (at this stage) would detract me from this great sport. I don't think I'd get the pleasure from doing it that others do. I don't shoot enough to warrant reloading yet (and I sure don't spend $16/50 on 9mm...more like $9.50...and I only get to the range about once/month). Now if I had the space...maybe...but at this point I'm just trying to get better at actually hitting the target consistently (think tighter grouping)...and $10/box isn't big money to me. Now the .308 story is different...that stuff is crazy expensive...I've found it for about $0.66/round but that seems to be rather cheap considering what I see around (but I still need to get a tighter grouping :shotgun:).
 
i see what you mean, just like "more money more problems" ;) more you make the more you spend. I can only go out shooting maybe 2-3 times per week. i bring a set amount of ammo to each shoot so i control my usage.

500-1000 per week does it for me. i guess ipsc shooters can go through 2000 a week easily.

imagine shooting 45acp factory ammo x 2000 /week. i don't think there are many people out there that can afford that.

Well that would be 104,000 rounds per year. That's a lot of money.
 
Thanks so much for the replies guys...this really is the best forum around...

I think that reloading (at this stage) would detract me from this great sport. I don't think I'd get the pleasure from doing it that others do. I don't shoot enough to warrant reloading yet (and I sure don't spend $16/50 on 9mm...more like $9.50...and I only get to the range about once/month). Now if I had the space...maybe...but at this point I'm just trying to get better at actually hitting the target consistently (think tighter grouping)...and $10/box isn't big money to me. Now the .308 story is different...that stuff is crazy expensive...I've found it for about $0.66/round but that seems to be rather cheap considering what I see around (but I still need to get a tighter grouping :shotgun:).


i think this is the "only" forum around, other than canadacarry.

as for the ammo, do tell where you get 50 rounds of 9mm for 10 dollars! now that's a deal!
 
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