Looking for a Russian SKS-45

Max-4

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I am looking to buy a Russian SKS-45 in "mint" condition, doesn't matter to me if it is a hardwood model or a laminate model. I do however want a silver bolt and the magazine pinned the IZH way (better way).

I am not a collector so a refurbished rifle is ok with me as I am going to shoot it. I am just looking for a rifle in as close to mint condition as I can get. Do we know of any rifles like this for sale now or in the near future?
 
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You're kinda late for them. There are nice refurbs on the EE every now and then. But even when they were first around the unrefurbs were few and far between. There are some nice frankenpinned ones around from Trade Ex,P&S Militaria,Westrifle and the odd Lever one.
 
Im sorry, I should state that it doesn't have to be "unissued", just with as little force matching as possible and in excellent overall condition. Im talking "mint".....
 
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Im sorry, I should state that it doesn't have to be "unissued" just with as little force matching as possible and in excellent overall condition. Im talking "mint".....

Pretty much most of SKS rifles are pinned the same way. It is very hard to find one that is not "frank pinned" IZh Impex as far as I know only deals with Baikal models nowadays. What they brought before sometimes is showing up on EE. You can wait and see who would sell them next. Mine are in excellent condition but "frankpinned" . Send me a PM or email at order@westrifle.com

Good luck
 
Sks-45

Well I caved and bought an SKS-45 from westrifle today and it looks really nice. I may have paid a bit more but I like the fact that I got to see a bunch of pictures of the exact rifle im getting. I don't like to leave it up to chance and possibly not be happy with what I got from another dealer. Westrifle was great to deal with and I am looking foward to getting my rifle!!! Here is the link to the actual gun on their sight, looks like it is in the "mint" condition I was after. It is however "frankenpinned" but I am not sweating it, I will post better pics when I get it.

http://www.westrifle.com/images2744.html
 
I missed this thread.

I have an unissued 1955/56 I've been thinking of dumping with all of my Bell refurbs.

They are all unfired and only the Bell imports have been "Frankenpinned."

They all have storage dents in the wood though.

I guess I should post them in the EE with some pictures.


BTW, enjoy your rifle!:)
 
Well I caved and bought an SKS-45 from westrifle today and it looks really nice. I may have paid a bit more but I like the fact that I got to see a bunch of pictures of the exact rifle im getting. I don't like to leave it up to chance and possibly not be happy with what I got from another dealer. Westrifle was great to deal with and I am looking foward to getting my rifle!!! Here is the link to the actual gun on their sight, looks like it is in the "mint" condition I was after. It is however "frankenpinned" but I am not sweating it, I will post better pics when I get it.

http://www.westrifle.com/images2744.html


Thank you for your purchase Max-4.
 
Im sorry, I should state that it doesn't have to be "unissued", just with as little force matching as possible and in excellent overall condition. Im talking "mint".....

You and I must have a different definition of "mint".

To me, mint means as minted, like when a coin is made at the the mint. NEVER been in circulation. It does not mean well used and then rebuilt.

If you are OK with a refurb (No reason not to have a refurb, they are great), then you might call it a "Rebuilt to new specification" gun, but not Mint.

Just my .02
 
hey max4,
very nice rifle,...
got the same 1952 with laminated stock in like new condition (barrel and action was brandnew never fired) from Tradex for $259.00 three weeks ago.
Only difference is: my laminated stock is double stamped, but in fantastic shape.
I can live with that...:D
 
hey max4,
very nice rifle,...
got the same 1952 with laminated stock in like new condition (barrel and action was brandnew never fired) from Tradex for $259.00 three weeks ago.
Only difference is: my laminated stock is double stamped, but in fantastic shape.
I can live with that...:D

What you mean yours had ###X on the stock twice. That means that your stock was used on three rifles. That means that your rifle was rebuilt two time at least. Mine are all matching numbers no ###X on the stock. All numbers are original and not electro penciled or grinned off and put on the refile to match. Quality product which was properly stored for 50+ years in original state. One bad thing that all SKS suffer in Canada is pinning and you know what I will figure this issue out because I care. Once I have approval from both Canadian and Russian side I will import SKS pinned the way everyone likes.
Polaris sorry to say but not the same rifle.

Cheers

:dancingbanana::dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
 
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What you mean yours had ###X on the stock twice. That means that your stock was used on three rifles. That means that your rifle was rebuilt two time at least. Mine are all matching numbers no ###X on the stock. All numbers are original and not electro penciled or grinned off and put on the refile to match. Quality product which was properly stored for 50+ years in original state. One bad thing that all SKS suffer in Canada is pinning and you know what I will figure this issue out because I care. Once I have approval from both Canadian and Russian side I will import SKS pinned the way everyone likes.
Polaris sorry to say but not the same rifle.

Cheers

:dancingbanana::dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

No, double stamped means one line of ###X...
and as I mentioned, all the metal parts, including the action and barrel are in brandnew condition not renumbered or electro penciled.
the stock, despite the double stamping is beautiful and in fantastic condition.

You are right, not the same rifle, but at least as nice as the once you sell for much much less $$$$$$
 
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Well I caved and bought an SKS-45 from westrifle today and it looks really nice. I may have paid a bit more but I like the fact that I got to see a bunch of pictures of the exact rifle im getting. I don't like to leave it up to chance and possibly not be happy with what I got from another dealer. Westrifle was great to deal with and I am looking foward to getting my rifle!!! Here is the link to the actual gun on their sight, looks like it is in the "mint" condition I was after. It is however "frankenpinned" but I am not sweating it, I will post better pics when I get it.

http://www.westrifle.com/images2744.html

That is a beautiful Tula '52.

Since laminate stocks were introduced in 55-56, the original stock on your 52 should be a solid birch stock. The laminate stock on it has never been on another rifle, that is why it has only one set of numbers. It would seem logical that your 52 is a rebuild, because this stock is likely to be a replacement to the original solid birch, as well I can see some markings above the star on the receiver cover, and electropenciled numbers on the gas tube.

About the frankenpinning, IMO, compared to the other method of welding a slim and short pin to the middle of the follower arm, I believe that this method used by westrifle and lever, bell and some others is functionally better. The reason is I have seen magazines that have been pinned on the follower arm, that have bent down and allow the magazine to accept 6 rounds instead of five. Now I am not talking legality here. I am saying that the follower could bend and thus weaken if the owner bends it back a few times.

IMO, for shooters, the westrifle/lever arms/bell method is functionally better because the follower will not bend down even with over-enthusiastic reloading as the force during reloading bears down directly on the pin or dowel welded to the bottom of the magazine. The downside is purely aesthetic since the welding job is indeed amateurish and hastily done. I am sure that if more care and thought were given this frankenpinning process, we would call it by another name. For collectors whose main concern is original cosmetics, then the other method will be better.

It is in excellent condition as described on the westrifle website, I agree 100%, but it is not "mint" as pointed out by tootall in a previous post.

Just keeping it real...a beautiful and exceptional rebuilt 1952 Tula with a virgin laminated stock is what it is.

I'm glad you are happy with it.
 
If you are OK with a refurb (No reason not to have a refurb, they are great), then you might call it a "Rebuilt to new specification" gun, but not Mint. Just my .02

Yes, that was what I meant to say. I was looking for a rebuilt to new specification rifle and I think I got it. For me it is worth the extra $50 to be able to see pics and know exactly which rifle I was getting. To leave it up to a crap shoot and just get the first rifle the guy at the store picked up was not an option.

I bought an SKS 6 months ago from Wolverine and I was less than pleased with the condition, so I sold it and got my money back. I hope I did it up right this time. Will post pics when I get it. Thanks
 
That is a beautiful Tula '52.

Since laminate stocks were introduced in 55-56, the original stock on your 52 should be a solid birch stock. The laminate stock on it has never been on another rifle, that is why it has only one set of numbers. It would seem logical that your 52 is a rebuild, because this stock is likely to be a replacement to the original solid birch, as well I can see some markings above the star on the receiver cover, and electropenciled numbers on the gas tube.

About the frankenpinning, IMO, compared to the other method of welding a slim and short pin to the middle of the follower arm, I believe that this method used by westrifle and lever, bell and some others is functionally better. The reason is I have seen magazines that have been pinned on the follower arm, that have bent down and allow the magazine to accept 6 rounds instead of five. Now I am not talking legality here. I am saying that the follower could bend and thus weaken if the owner bends it back a few times.

IMO, for shooters, the westrifle/lever arms/bell method is functionally better because the follower will not bend down even with over-enthusiastic reloading as the force during reloading bears down directly on the pin or dowel welded to the bottom of the magazine. The downside is purely aesthetic since the welding job is indeed amateurish and hastily done. I am sure that if more care and thought were given this frankenpinning process, we would call it by another name. For collectors whose main concern is original cosmetics, then the other method will be better.

It is in excellent condition as described on the westrifle website, I agree 100%, but it is not "mint" as pointed out by tootall in a previous post.

Just keeping it real...a beautiful and exceptional rebuilt 1952 Tula with a virgin laminated stock is what it is.

I'm glad you are happy with it.
Electropenciled gas tube and piston is normal for a refurb or an unissued sks because thoses parts are too small or thin to be stamped.
 
thats correct, having one electro pencil on gas tube is normal but two electro pencil would mean refurb , cant tell from just looking at pic .
 
About the frankenpinning, IMO, compared to the other method of welding a slim and short pin to the middle of the follower arm, I believe that this method used by westrifle and lever, bell and some others is functionally better. The reason is I have seen magazines that have been pinned on the follower arm, that have bent down and allow the magazine to accept 6 rounds instead of five. Now I am not talking legality here. I am saying that the follower could bend and thus weaken if the owner bends it back a few times.

IMO, for shooters, the westrifle/lever arms/bell method is functionally better because the follower will not bend down even with over-enthusiastic reloading as the force during reloading bears down directly on the pin or dowel welded to the bottom of the magazine. The downside is purely aesthetic since the welding job is indeed amateurish and hastily done. I am sure that if more care and thought were given this frankenpinning process, we would call it by another name. For collectors whose main concern is original cosmetics, then the other method will be better.

this make no sense to me at all so for the few over-entusiastic shooters that trys to force 6 rds into the mag, for them it function better so for the rest of us we all should end up with mutilated mag?

IZH mag (first shipment) that came with a thin rod in the middle of the follower arm works just fine for the rest of us , ten of thousands more chinese/norinco SKS were imported before IZH and it had a similar set up, except the thin rod was at the bottom of the mag touching the follower arm even further forward and there wasnt much of a problem.

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So if it was welded in the lower part (chinese version) and not destroying the number. Would that be acceptable. Thank you Curtton


this make no sense to me at all so for the few over-entusiastic shooters that trys to force 6 rds into the mag, for them it function better so for the rest of us we all should end up with mutilated mag?

IZH mag (first shipment) that came with a thin rod in the middle of the follower arm works just fine for the rest of us , ten of thousands more chinese/norinco SKS were imported before IZH and it had a similar set up, except the thin rod was at the bottom of the mag touching the follower arm even further forward and there wasnt much of a problem.

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So if it was welded in the lower part (chinese version) and not destroying the number. Would that be acceptable. Thank you Curtton

sergey: better, like woodbeef said the SN wouldnt be destroyed and a new SN wouldnt have to relocated to the left side...... but, esthetically the same cos the weld blob was moved an inch forward, still need sanding and black paint.

please tell them no welding the bottom of the mag, could you not take these samples over to russia to show them?
 
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