No Longer A Fan OF WipeOut

[Max Owner]

Hey all.

Just cleaned my Savage 223 with a stainless barrel.

Put WipeOut in over night (maybe 15-17 hours?) and cleaned out with rod and patches. After the barrel breakin thread I thought about using good ol Hoppes #9. As my science experiment for the day. Ran a wet patch through and came out a medium black. Soaked again and ran a bronze brush through a few scrubs. Wet patched X2 and then ran dry patches through.

Barrel was clean when I started shooting. Shot only 40 rounds before running out of daylight earlier this week.

For the cost of WipeOut and the hype it got, I am disappointed.

If you have your own experiences good or bad, please post.

 

[Grizzlypeg]

Hmmmm. Interesting.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm simply picking up black from the chamber or bolt area, rather than the bore. Try an experiment, run another wet patch of #9 through and see if the patch is totally clean. Maybe the wet patch gets more, and dry clean patch doesn't mean its clean, simply that its not picking anything up.

 

[shootist22-250]

Wipe Out is not that magical. You need to use more than one treatment per cleaning. Two usually suffices in my case.

 

[cdnredneck_t3]

Wipe Out is not that magical. You need to use more than one treatment per cleaning. Two usually suffices in my case.

Same here. I find wipe out to work great for copper fouling but not to great for the rest of the stuff. I do a couple treatments of wipe out until the blue copper is gone then i switch to a solvent.

 

[Obtunded]

Been there done that. Wipe-out is a reasonable intermeidate cleaner (good for a cursory cleaning) but when I clean I use Buthches (Hoppes would be just as good) and Sweets.

I start with butch's and a nylon brush and I brush until the brush is absolutely consistent end to end. I clean out with patches and then blast the barrel with brake cleaner.

I then apply Sweets with a bore mop (not sure why because my barrels have NO copper fouling that Butch's doesn't clean) and run patches to clen it out... rinse with brake cleaner.

 

[Max Owner]

On my wet patches you can see the rifling. The black seems to coincide with the rifling.

 

[armorman]

Obtunded,

Which brake cleaner are you using? I'm just wondering if a guy needs to use a certain brand because of the chemical make up of the cleaner.

 

[Longshot]

Were you using a one piece rod that is covered in black plastic protective wrap perhaps?I find that it comes off fairly easily with certain cleaners.

 

[Obtunded]

I just use the aerosol brake cleaner I can get from Cambodian Tire or the local auto parts mafia.

 

[mikeelliot]

And Brake Kleen smells almost as good as Hoppes #9

 

[cdnredneck_t3]

And Brake Kleen smells almost as good as Hoppes #9

Tell me about it. I had a little accident with Hoppes last week and spilt half a bottle on my bench. It soaked into the wood and I still get a little high playing x-box

 

[444shooter]

Been there done that. Wipe-out is a reasonable intermeidate cleaner (good for a cursory cleaning) but when I clean I use Buthches (Hoppes would be just as good) and Sweets.

I start with butch's and a nylon brush and I brush until the brush is absolutely consistent end to end. I clean out with patches and then blast the barrel with brake cleaner.

I then apply Sweets with a bore mop (not sure why because my barrels have NO copper fouling that Butch's doesn't clean) and run patches to clen it out... rinse with brake cleaner.

Ian,

Do you prefer Butch's or Sweets?

 

[Cappy]

I usually only clean every 200-400 rounds depending on the rifle. When I do I usually run a patch or two of accelerator through first then treat it for a 1/2-1hr with the wipe-out. If it's really dirty when I patch it out I will then apply the wipe-out again and leave it for the extended period. When I've run a bore-scope down the barrel after doing this it is spotless.

I don't have it in front of me, but I believe wipe-out leaves a protective film behind. The hoppes could be cutting through that and the result is the black patch.

 

[guntech]

Hey all.

Just cleaned my Savage 223 with a stainless barrel.

Put WipeOut in over night (maybe 15-17 hours?) and cleaned out with rod and patches. After the barrel breakin thread I thought about using good ol Hoppes #9. As my science experiment for the day. Ran a wet patch through and came out a medium black.

I don't understand what the problem is. If it is a medium black patch don't worry about it... it is meaningless... you can always get 'color' out of a clean barrel.

 

[virus1338]

You mean we have to clean them barrels??? Bu seriously I have a tank I use to drop tha barreled action in and cover with water. I boil it for 10 to 15 minutes and let dry (the heat evaporates the water quickly) after that a few( 2 or 3) wet patches of hoppe's and it's clean as a whistle (wathever that means)

 

[xring_assassin]

I tried wipeout with similar results to yours. Clean with wipeout first, then tried ol #9 for giggles - beleiving my barrel to be clean from wipeout. TADA! Copper fouling and black crud galore on the patches.

So I think "what the ????" and go grab my fouled bore hunting rifle to try another experiment....Butches first THEN try #9 - not as severe results - but similar....

I always considered #9 kind of junky because it's really cheap and available at Wal-mart fairly often....

Gonna try some Sweet's soon....same experiment setup.

 

[sako6br]

I've never tried Wipeout. I have been using Hoppes #9 for powder fouling and Sweets for copper for years and have seen no reason to change what works. For what it's worth, Hoppes is a great product for removing powder fouling and because you can buy it just about anywhere is bonus.

 

[Ganderite]

What kind of ammo did you shoot in the 223? Military or commercial/handloads?

 

[ffwd]

I took a shooting course run by a former military sniper. He used Butch's until the patches came out clean, then a couple passes with FP-10 lubricant. Always seemed to get more gunk out with the FP-10. I do the same.

 

[fatboyz]

What do you guys think of Barnes Cr-10