Wolf attack in Barrys Bay

Just got a call from my daughter this morning, she's at my moms house. Seems four timbers just crossed the ice to the deer yard across the bay this morning.

Taking the 22-250 to the range this afternoon to make sure she's still dialed in. Had the 1" rebar at 200 yds dancing every shot last time so hopefully I didn't bump it.
 
I don't think that anyone could say that wolf attacks on humans don't happen. They are quite rare in North America ( a handful of documented fatalities, ever). I am not sure why there are (relatively) so many in northern Europe and Asia (Russia, Siberia) - possibly different wolf genetics, more people in remote areas.....

Since 1900, there have been 52 recorded fatalities from black bears in North America.

The average annual death rate from lightning in the US is 73.

So statistically, you are at least 100 times more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a black bear.


So, if you really want to protect yourself, you'd be better off packing a lightning rod :D:D:D

Seriously, though, I don't see the point in preparing for an attack that is is so unlikely.
 
Jay said:
When I am "out of doors", I always keep a firearm handy! Hopefully they learned a lesson & now know, IT CAN HAPPEN! I always say it is better to be prepared & never need a firearm, then to need a firearm & not have it! After all, a firearm is one of those things that, if you really need it, NOTHING ELSE WILL DO!

Cheers
Jay
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Jay, I fully agree with you about keeping a firearm handy. However, when I am working around the farm here it is pretty unhandy to keep a 22 or 12ga handy when you are moving around or doing something with both hands like trimming grass along the fence line with the gas weed whacker.

This is why we need to be allowed to carry a handgun. A shotty slung over the back is pretty darn unhandy, not to mention heavy, in the above situations.

I would like to see all the anti-gun crowd along with the anti-hunting crowd and PETA and Greenpeace locked in a large razor-wire perimeter forested area with a pack of wolves. Would provide endless hours of entertainment.;)

CD
 
Ol' Smokey said:
Seriously, though, I don't see the point in preparing for an attack that is is so unlikely.
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I see you live in GTA. You have more to fear from attacks by wolf packs of the two-legged variety there.

When one goes out in the woods or countryside, common sense just says you should have a means of defending yourself and a firearms is the easiest tool to use. I am not that good with a pitchfork like my old father used to be.

CD
 
cdill said:
I see you live in GTA. You have more to fear from attacks by wolf packs of the two-legged variety there.

When one goes out in the woods or countryside, common sense just says you should have a means of defending yourself and a firearms is the easiest tool to use. I am not that good with a pitchfork like my old father used to be.

CD
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Actually, I've been living on a farm well north and east of TO for nigh onto two decades.

As for protection, LOL! We are outdoors a lot here, have never been threatened by anything except two instances of being shot at by careless hunters. Let's get real.

If you have livestock that are suffering predation, by all means, look after them. My common sense wonders what else you need defending from, unless of course the Zombies come:rolleyes:.
 
Ol' Smokey said:
Seriously, though, I don't see the point in preparing for an attack that is is so unlikely.
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AGREE.
One might want to stay home and watch the Hunting channel if they are too scared to be out, and about without being armed. SERIOUSLY!!!
 
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Well, let me tell you a couple true stories.

An old friend of mine who was over 80 at the time always took a 22 rifle when he went for a walk in the woods near the town where he lived. The one time he forgot the rifle, he was attacked by an obviously rabid fox. He barely escaped being bitten. Grabbed a rotten stick that promptly broke in two when he swung it. Then threw a couple stones.

Of course I expect you guys will think it fun to fend off a rabid animal with just your bare hands....keeps the 'ol adrenalin pumping huh?

Second story, back when I was a kid the elderly neighbour couple went to bed and in the middle of the night someone busted down their door armed with shotguns and tied them up and robbed them of all valuables in the house and beat them. They lived in the farm house next door.

Bet you also figure that could be fun and would never happen to your miserable hides.


Guys like you just make me shake my head.....have fun out there and if something happens to you don't come complaining because I don't want to hear a peep out of you!

CD
 
rradako1 said:
Not sure if you can have a shot gun. I was reading the posts and believe that the wolves wanted the family dog. I am in SW Ontario and had inertactions with wolves. One was when I was turkey hunting and calling in turkeys and a blonde very large wolf came out of the bush. I thought it was a deer because of the size of it, but my hunting partner also saw it and it was indeed a wolf. We took our shotguns and walked over to where it came out of the bush an walked into the bush about 15 yards. We then heard sounds of what sounded like chain saws, and we backed out the bush. We looked up a wolf growl on the internet and indeed it was a match to the sound we heard. The sound is on youtube under wolf warning growl, which means the next step was an attack. I did some research and read that they are becoming less fearfull of man and I do believe that they will attack. Whether it is because of a family dog sent, or if you are close to a den, or walking through the bush on a trail, it is better to be armed and not use it then be dinner for a pack of dogs.
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I think that you will find that around here in southern On. there will be quite a few mixed breed Coyotes, or wolf from all the stray dogs let loose by people, and are running wild. These cross breeds depending the breed, could make the yote/wolf big and don't have the ingrained fear of people their true wild brothers do. The stray domestics are not that afraid of people and the cross breeds can be less afraid of people as a result.
 
cdill said:
Well, let me tell you a couple true stories.

An old friend of mine who was over 80 at the time always took a 22 rifle when he went for a walk in the woods near the town where he lived. The one time he forgot the rifle, he was attacked by an obviously rabid fox. He barely escaped being bitten. Grabbed a rotten stick that promptly broke in two when he swung it. Then threw a couple stones.

Of course I expect you guys will think it fun to fend off a rabid animal with just your bare hands....keeps the 'ol adrenalin pumping huh?

Second story, back when I was a kid the elderly neighbour couple went to bed and in the middle of the night someone busted down their door armed with shotguns and tied them up and robbed them of all valuables in the house and beat them. They lived in the farm house next door.

Bet you also figure that could be fun and would never happen to your miserable hides.


Guys like you just make me shake my head.....have fun out there and if something happens to you don't come complaining because I don't want to hear a peep out of you!

CD
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Well, let's look at the stats again. There are just over 100 confirmed cases of rabies in wild animals per year in Ontario, as far as I can tell. Many of these are dead animals. It doesn't take a lot of analysis to come to the conclusion that your chances of being attacked by a rabid fox/raccoon/whatever are probably in the same league as lightning. If you are that concerned, get rabies vaccinated (I got mine).

I love my guns, love hunting, but remain amused at the notion that I need to be armed at all times in the outdoors to "defend" myself. None of the farmers, hunters, and rural folks I know feel that need.

Home invasion? Still quite unlikely, but that doesn't relate to the issue of needing a gun every time you go out of doors. Still, I wonder how the gunfight would have ended up had the elderly couple decided to fight it out with the home invaders :rolleyes:
 
cdill said:
I see you live in GTA. You have more to fear from attacks by wolf packs of the two-legged variety there.

When one goes out in the woods or countryside, common sense just says you should have a means of defending yourself and a firearms is the easiest tool to use. I am not that good with a pitchfork like my old father used to be.

CD
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Oh good lord. In Ontario (I wont talk about brown/polar bears as I have no experience with them) its hardly necessary to carry a gun at all times in the bush.

Besides spending many recreational hours in the bush, I also work in the bush, and have NEVER had a close call with wolves/bears/anything. I also grew up in rural Parry Sound area, where we have healthy populations of both bear and wolves

Bear spray would be far easier to carry and use anyway in a tense situation. And a good dog.
 
I think its laughable that I would consider carrying a firearms outdoors at all times....If it ever got that bad...better stay indoors...and as mentioned it would only be practical if I could get a carry permit (ATC) .

99.9% of wild animals want nothing to do with you.
 
blasted_saber said:
Besides spending many recreational hours in the bush, I also work in the bush, and have NEVER had a close call with wolves/bears/anything. I also grew up in rural Parry Sound area, where we have healthy populations of both bear and wolves

Bear spray would be far easier to carry and use anyway in a tense situation. And a good dog.
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You seem to have missed the original story starting this thread.
They were Timber Wolves & they WERE likely after the dog!

Personally I have had wolves stalking me along a rail line with-in 60 feet, right after sunset, my flashlight would illuminate their eyes in the edge of the brush. I had a shot gun, but was still scared when I BACKED into my vehicle. I also have a good friend that had them suround him in the dark when he got lost on his way back to camp. He arrived with 1 shell left, but with no flashlight saw nothing but darkness & fired when ever he heard them get REAL close!
I can't say whether there was going to be an attack in either case. BUT there are times when I will be armed. Theretical..If dealing with a pack of wolves intending to have you for supper I would suggest pepper spray would allow the wolves to travel lighter without having to carry condiments :D
 
senior said:
You seem to have missed the original story starting this thread.
They were Timber Wolves & they WERE likely after the dog!

Personally I have had wolves stalking me along a rail line with-in 60 feet, right after sunset, my flashlight would illuminate their eyes in the edge of the brush. I had a shot gun, but was still scared when I BACKED into my vehicle. I also have a good friend that had them suround him in the dark when he got lost on his way back to camp. He arrived with 1 shell left, but with no flashlight saw nothing but darkness & fired when ever he heard them get REAL close!
I can't say whether there was going to be an attack in either case. BUT there are times when I will be armed. Theretical..If dealing with a pack of wolves intending to have you for supper I would suggest pepper spray would allow the wolves to travel lighter without having to carry condiments :D
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Precisely, after the dog. Not after the people.
 
Pathfinder said:
I think its laughable that I would consider carrying a firearms outdoors at all times....If it ever got that bad...better stay indoors...and as mentioned it would only be practical if I could get a carry permit (ATC) . 99.9% of wild animals want nothing to do with you.
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:agree:
It is not practical to always carry a rifle or shotgun. In many cases, it is often cumbersome to carry a long rifle. When long hikes are needed to get to inaccessible lakes or streams, the pack full of fishing and camping gear is heavy enough as it is.

A good knife around the waist is often all you need when in the great outdoors.

Regards
Robert
 
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