I can't shoot my glock for ####....

Learn to control the Glock's trigger. Fire one round and instead of letting the trigger go all the way back only let it go back far enough to hear/feel a click. At this point aim and shoot again. I bet you will shoot better.
 
nza said:
To echo what some have already said:
  • slow it down
  • bring the target closer start at the 10 yard line, be successful with that, then go further out.
  • mix dummy rounds or load unknown number of rounds.
  • grip should be firm like you are holding a bird from flying away, but loose enough so that you're not squeezing it to death
  • bring the gun up to you - don't bring your head down to the sites.
  • arms straight
  • both eyes open
  • target should be fuzzy focus, with sights aligned
  • slowly squeeze (don't slap) the trigger, until you feel its just at the point where it will fire - thats called bringing in the slack
  • then squeeze, the shot should suprise you.
  • experiment with your finger tip, or the pad, or the joint
  • adopt a modified weaver stance, or something that feels comfortable to you, don't lean back, lean forward instead if you must.
  • the grip should be hand over hand, with thumb over thumb, and pointed towards the target.
  • For me I came from a 1911 world, so my habit is to use my weak hand pointer finger and bring it across and infront of the trigger guard.
  • Try 3-5 shot groups. Their may be impetus to try to shoot faster and further right away, but be patient and work it, until you are consistent. If your groupings are tight but off the mark - consistently, it means something with your sights.
  • When you're not at the range, practice dry firing, bring up the gun until the sight picture aligns. close your eyes, take 3 or 4 deep breaths open them, still there? then try closing your eyes, bring the gun down, bring them up again and realign the sights. do this alot. this is conditioning muscle memory.
  • These are just some things you can do by yourself. Its much better to have an experienced shooter observe you.
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That list did it for me. thanks.
 
ShaneN. said:
Went to the range tonight and just can't seem to get a nice group with my g17. It's fairly new to me, the sport is too actually, but I usually seem to shoot down and to the left a bit. Then my friend rented a 1911 .45 and I picked it up and shoot right in the centre for a decent group out of the mag. It drives me nuts.

The one thing I notice about the 1911 is the front thick sight fills up the rear sites cut out section nicely, so you know when you've got the sights lined up real good and on my gun I have the trijicon night sites but when you line them all up there is still space on each side of the front sight. So basically the front sight doesn't fill up the whole width of the notch in the rear sight.

My first thought is sell the gun and find something else as I've read that lots of people are hit or miss with the glocks but I reallllly like the glock for the looks, functionality, realibility, simplicity, etc. I just love the glocks - plus going out and spending more money on a different gun when clearly it's just MY own accuracy issues with the gun seems stupid. So I'm toying with the idea of lightening up the trigger a bit with one of those 3.5lb trigger (is that what i want?) and perhaps trying the XS big dot sights to see how I like them.

Last time I was at the range and was getting frusterated I had one of the r/o's try out the gun and he put all 10 rounds on spot for the most part.

What do you guys think I should do? I guess it doesn't hurt to change up my combination with this gun a bit to see if I get better results before trying something else in 9mm. But now I know I want a 1911 in .45 too.
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Maybe a 1911 in 45, is just in "your cards?"

maybe......;)
 
richardoldfield said:
Learn to control the Glock's trigger. Fire one round and instead of letting the trigger go all the way back only let it go back far enough to hear/feel a click. At this point aim and shoot again. I bet you will shoot better.
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Anyone that does not learn Glock trigger control is doomed to failure. Putting a 3 1/2 # trigger on a Glock, without learning the pistol's correct method of trigger control, is putting themselves in a hairy/dangerous position.
 
dry fire the Glock 50-100 times per day for about a month or two. While doing this align sights on blank wall with goal of no shaking of sight picture.

I used this method to adapt to the LEM trigger in HK and now I shoot it equal to a 1911 and better than any other pistol.

Also, some gun grips/angles work better for certain hand sizes and such. Personally I just don't shoot the Glock as well as guns with less raked grip angles, regardless of amount of practice.
 
+ 1000 on the dryfire. You do not have a gun problem unless you are a freak of nature you have a trigger control problem. The fingers of the hand are designed to work together rather than independently. However for accurate shooting with a pistol your trigger finger must move independently of the rest of your fingers or accuracy suffers.
 
I have owned my G17 ( fixed sights ) for a year now and find that it shoots pretty good for an out of the box factory production pistol thats under 800$. The only complaint that I have about it is the trigger is absolutely horrible.

Recently I have decide to do some upgrades to it that I think will make it a far better pistol to shoot. I have just ordered a new Storm Lake 9mm un ported barrel, Stainless guide rod to replace the cheap plastic one and adjustable rear sight. I am also currently looking into getting a trigger job done to it to correct my biggest complaint.

As far as I am concerned as a factory production gun I definitely recieved what I paid for. If I wanted a precision pistol that was consistent every time I pulled it out of the vault I would buy an STI but I would have to be willing to shell out over 2 grand for it.
 
Glock would definitely not be my first pick if I was into "bullseye" type accuracy shooting. I personally don't give a damn if my groups are 2" or 3.5", so the Glock is an excellent gun for action shooting and making quick followup shots. You just have to figure out the trigger.

The SP01 is a superb gun though.
 
Darko, my G17 with the 3 1/2# trigger will shoot with the best but it is not a pistol for a novice. Why? Keeping your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot is a rote skill and few novices can do this without thinking.
 
When I first shot my G17, I was like 4 inch off to the left @ 7 yards. I couldnt believe it, I tought the stock "U" sights were crap / unaligned at first. I shoot dead center with my SIG at that distance.

On my second range trip, I lubbed the trigger components and begun to concentrate on my trigger pull, going as slow and consistently as I could and guess what, I started to shoot near the center of the target.

I have to say, the trigger on a new glock is a #####. After 300 rounds tru the barrel, it starts to feel much better and accuracy/groups have improved a lot! SIG DA/SA system (Which I was used to) and Glock "Safe action" are very different animals.

I would recommend you concentrate on your grip/trigger pull. Instead of paying for a trigger job, google "Glock 25 cents trigger job"; I heard a lot of great things about it!
 
darko said:
Glock would definitely not be my first pick if I was into "bullseye" type accuracy shooting. I personally don't give a damn if my groups are 2" or 3.5", so the Glock is an excellent gun for action shooting and making quick followup shots. You just have to figure out the trigger.

The SP01 is a superb gun though.
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Glocks are service pistols, not precision pistols. Its about selecting the right tool for the job. That being said, Glocks are more than accurate enough for the vast majority of shooters.

TDC
 
TDC said:
Glocks are service pistols, not precision pistols. Its about selecting the right tool for the job. That being said, Glocks are more than accurate enough for the vast majority of shooters.

TDC
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+1.....what is right for you may not be right for the next guy....to each their own.....
 
ShaneN. said:
Went to the range tonight and just can't seem to get a nice group with my g17. It's fairly new to me, the sport is too actually, but I usually seem to shoot down and to the left a bit. Then my friend rented a 1911 .45 and I picked it up and shoot right in the centre for a decent group out of the mag. It drives me nuts.
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I didn't read through all the post but I did have that problem at the beginning, shot 7 - 8 oclock. For me... I was/still flinching... not as bad now. Practice practice practice.

As for the 1911... YUP,me too! Tried out my friends STI Trojan in .40cal and was hitting dead center and that was the very first time I ever shot a 1911.

I was chatting with my cousin and it was brought up that for some reason the 1911 design just shoots nice naturally.
 
The ROC said:
I didn't read through all the post but I did have that problem at the beginning, shot 7 - 8 oclock. For me... I was/still flinching... not as bad now. Practice practice practice.

As for the 1911... YUP,me too! Tried out my friends STI Trojan in .40cal and was hitting dead center and that was the very first time I ever shot a 1911.

I was chatting with my cousin and it was brought up that for some reason the 1911 design just shoots nice naturally.
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I find the same with my Colt 1991A1.
If I have not shot handgun in a long time, say over really cold winter months.
And I use the 1911, I myself find that I can hit paper pretty good, almost from the get go, it's naturally pointing. But on a an eight inch target @25 yards. Weaver stance. With these older eyes, I am very happy with six inch groups with this non-match factory 1911, on a really good day.
However, with any investment in range practice, my own experience shows, my Colt and S & W revolvers are quite more accurate, in the long run. (38 & 44 Special)
Almost three inches@ 25 yards, using the same two hand hold. This is about my limit with practice & iron sights.
 
I have an "Allen Dot" target from my TR class that shows that Glocks can be accurate enough.

You are in BC. If you are close enough to Abbotsford, contact Slavex (Rob) on this board and get him to invite you to the next skills and drills. Best coaching for the money.
 
I'm partial to the Truglo TFO's.

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(the target in the pic is only a coupe of meters away)

but with these sights I can consistently get 4 1/2 inch groupings at 20 Yards.

like this.

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bluebadger said:
+1 Heinie and Advantage Arms.
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If you are planning to get into Action shooting, the .22 kit will only make you shoot worse. Get used to the recoil of your ammo. If you plan to shoot 9mm,get used to it. If 40SW,get used to it. Practice only with the ammo you are planning to shoot, otherwise, you are going no where. The only thing the .22 kit will do to you is saving you some money on ammo. But if you are willing to spend more on your normal ammo, shoot more....then your skill will become better and better...:)Been there. Done that.
 
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