Wolf attack in Barrys Bay

[MadDog]

Personally I have had wolves stalking me along a rail line with-in 60 feet, right after sunset, my flashlight would illuminate their eyes in the edge of the brush.

I've had them ##### cross the trail between me and the guys walking up the trail behind me and another time had a lone wolf walking parralel to me as I was walking through my lot but he stayed a good 100 yds out. Followed me all the way till I hit the road then he dissappeared. I think in both cases they were more than likely just curious than anything.

I don't take a big gun into the bush with me if I'm working on my stands or cutting wood. Wish I had last year when I was charged by a big ass black bear while refilling my deer feeder. Seems he thought I was getting into his supper and didn't like it to much. All I had was a 22 bolt action I take for pesky squirrels. Never bothered to take a shot at him cause it would have just pissed him off but I had to change my drawers when I got back to the camp.

 

[Ol' Smokey]

Wish I had last year when I was charged by a big ass black bear while refilling my deer feeder. Seems he thought I was getting into his supper and didn't like it to much. All I had was a 22 bolt action I take for pesky squirrels. Never bothered to take a shot at him cause it would have just pissed him off but I had to change my drawers when I got back to the camp.

It seems that a can of bear spry might be prudent, but see this link about black bear behaviour. Please note that these are wild bears ....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8320000/8320414.stm

They seem to use the bluff charge, but rarely proceed to an attack. Had you had a bigger gun, it might have ended in a pointless death.

I do admit that I don't know if I'd have the balls to allow a bluff charge .......

 

[cdill]

Well, let's look at the stats again. There are just over 100 confirmed cases of rabies in wild animals per year in Ontario, as far as I can tell. Many of these are dead animals. It doesn't take a lot of analysis to come to the conclusion that your chances of being attacked by a rabid fox/raccoon/whatever are probably in the same league as lightning. If you are that concerned, get rabies vaccinated (I got mine).

I love my guns, love hunting, but remain amused at the notion that I need to be armed at all times in the outdoors to "defend" myself. None of the farmers, hunters, and rural folks I know feel that need.

Home invasion? Still quite unlikely, but that doesn't relate to the issue of needing a gun every time you go out of doors. Still, I wonder how the gunfight would have ended up had the elderly couple decided to fight it out with the home invaders

I'll let you decide which side of the statistics you care to end up on, both for wild animal / rabid animal attacks and nasty encounters of the two-legged type.

I was confronted by a growling teeth baring stray dog when I was in my teens in my own yard and managed to grab a hammer from the shed and shoved it in his face and then climbed up on a wagon in the open shed. I would have much preferred to have had my 22 rifle with me.

As for poking fun at the elderly couple, well there was a shotgun in the house, but unfortunately it was downstairs - not good planning in this case. I would not have wanted to try coming up the stairs if the old guy had his shotgun handy...you can think about that one and see if you would like to walk up the stairs when he had the advantage. And finally, obviously you have not read any of the stories on here about elderly people defending themselves in the US using....gasp....firearms! And when guns were banned in the UK who found themselves facing home invasions when they were home - the elderly. You need a reality check!!!

I already guessed which side of the CCW argument you are on....

A gun is just another tool, like that handy dandy little combo seatbelt cutter/glass breaker took I carry in my car.....I can just imagine your thoughts on that one too.....come on give me some stats to prove how paranoid I am....I know you can.

CD

 

[blasted_saber]

I'll let you decide which side of the statistics you care to end up on, both for wild animal / rabid animal attacks and nasty encounters of the two-legged type.

I was confronted by a growling teeth baring stray dog when I was in my teens in my own yard and managed to grab a hammer from the shed and shoved it in his face and then climbed up on a wagon in the open shed. I would have much preferred to have had my 22 rifle with me.

As for poking fun at the elderly couple, well there was a shotgun in the house, but unfortunately it was downstairs - not good planning in this case. I would not have wanted to try coming up the stairs if the old guy had his shotgun handy...you can think about that one and see if you would like to walk up the stairs when he had the advantage. And finally, obviously you have not read any of the stories on here about elderly people defending themselves in the US using....gasp....firearms! And when guns were banned in the UK who found themselves facing home invasions when they were home - the elderly. You need a reality check!!!

I already guessed which side of the CCW argument you are on....

A gun is just another tool, like that handy dandy little combo seatbelt cutter/glass breaker took I carry in my car.....I can just imagine your thoughts on that one too.....come on give me some stats to prove how paranoid I am....I know you can.

CD

You're missing the whole point of the thread. Both of your arguements have nothing to do with wild animals (domestic animals and home invasions). Please explain how carrying a gun in the bush is going to stop a home invasion, or a stray dog from attacking you on your lawn. I must be missing something.

Your one wild animal story about a wild fox; I'll give you that one. However I have my rabies vaccine, and im usually wearing steel toe boots in the bush

ST boot + kick to ribs = fox is done

You're also missing the what most have said; that carrying a LONG GUN around is a pain and a nuisance. If CCW of handguns was legal in Canada, thats a completely different topic as they arent a hindrance.

Do you live in the bush? Cause you talk like someone who lives in in the middle of a city.

 

[captonion]

You're missing the whole point of the thread. Both of your arguements have nothing to do with wild animals (domestic animals and home invasions).

Do you live in the bush? Cause you talk like someone who lives in in the middle of a city.

I think cdill is a little "out there", as well as off topic!

 

[BrotherRockeye]

I don't take a big gun into the bush with me if I'm working on my stands or cutting wood. Wish I had last year when I was charged by a big ass black bear while refilling my deer feeder. Seems he thought I was getting into his supper and didn't like it to much. All I had was a 22 bolt action I take for pesky squirrels. Never bothered to take a shot at him cause it would have just pissed him off but I had to change my drawers when I got back to the camp.

bettin you would have been happy with an ol' tomato stake bout then

oh an that .22 will drop a black bear stone dead if he's not on the prod...
like in yer yard...by yer shop...20yds away from yer kids...

It seems that a can of bear spry might be prudent, but see this link about black bear behaviour. Please note that these are wild bears ....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8320000/8320414.stm

They seem to use the bluff charge, but rarely proceed to an attack. Had you had a bigger gun, it might have ended in a pointless death.

I do admit that I don't know if I'd have the balls to allow a bluff charge .......

sometimes balls have nothing to do with it...just knowing not to run can be the difference between a mock charge and triggering a predator response...

oh yea sorry...wolves...the BIG W

they seem to be getting bolder around here.
a little over a month ago there was one at my neighbors trying to coax their dog(and the moose leg he was chewing) off the front step.It didn't even bugger off when she opened the door...

 

[lone-wolf]

I suppose you all golf in thunderstorms because getting struck by lightning is rare too?
But yes, being limited to long guns is a nuisance.

Your protection against wild animals is steeled toe boats? Now who sounds like he lives in the city... assuming one would come at you head on and slow enough for you to bootf**k it.
On the other hand, a firearm is not a guarantee either, but at least you don't have to throw your leg out into biting range for it to be effective.

 

[Ol' Smokey]

As for poking fun at the elderly couple, ..........

I already guessed which side of the CCW argument you are on....


CD

Well, you're assuming a helluva lot.

I was not making fun of anyone. You proved my point, though, because they did have a gun, and it did them no good. Unless you are trained, prepared, and equipped, getting into a gunfight is a damned risky thing.

Don't have a problem with CCW - would love it, in fact, but ain't gonna happen here anytime soon. So what's that got to do with outdoors critter defense?

I just don't know any people who live and work in the bush that are quite so paranoid about "defense" and "survival" that they worry about not packing 24/7 when outside.

 

[TwoTone]

 

[blasted_saber]

I suppose you all golf in thunderstorms because getting struck by lightning is rare too?
But yes, being limited to long guns is a nuisance.

Your protection against wild animals is steeled toe boats? Now who sounds like he lives in the city... assuming one would come at you head on and slow enough for you to bootf**k it.
On the other hand, a firearm is not a guarantee either, but at least you don't have to throw your leg out into biting range for it to be effective.

As ive said, I grew up in the bush, work in the bush, and play in the bush (I currently live in a small town, surrounded by, you guess it, bush). I dont worry about "protection" when i go in the bush. And the example of using a steel toe'd boot was on a rabid fox, as the other guy used that as an example of why i should have a gun in the bush. if I was going to carry something, it would be bear spray.

 

[the keepa]

Two stories from Dryden from about 10 years ago:
Bobby R was late season moose hunting past Bear Narrows . Decided to follow some fresh moose tracks that had crossed the road . Trailed the moose for about a mile until he came to a slight hill overlooking a fairly large Labrador Tea swamp . Stopped there and did some calling ...called again. After a while he could see something running towards him , about 10 timber wolves running single file along the back trail of the 3 moose Bob was trailing . Thinking that his calls were too effective, Bob moved into plain sight , and waved his arms causing the wolves to increase their pace . Getting a bit nervous Bob yells , hollers and waves his arms...still coming .
Finally Bob says to hell with it and starts shooting , killing 3 before the others turned tail .
Bob goes back in the next day with a couple of buddies to retreive the carcasses , but there was nothing left except blood stains and a few clumps of hair.
Sure the wolves mistook him for moose but if he hadn't had a rifle it probably would have turned out badly for him .
Marcel, a bow hunter, left his bow at home and carried a rifle during the last few days of the regular gun season .
Returning homeward near dusk he noticed a cow and a calf had crossed his trail so he decided to follow the fresh tracks through the heavy Tag-Alder thicket .It was getting near dusk so he stopped to see if he could hear the moose ahead of him . What he did see was a couple of dark shapes hurtling towards him, growling and snapping their teeth . Having no time to deter them with hollering and screaming (which he did anyways)...he started shooting , killing the last one within a few yards of himself .
I have the tanned hides of the two wolves he shot that day .

 

[the keepa]

There was a miner killed by a wolf (or wolves) in northern Sask last winter (or the one before) and there were all kinds of pro wolf people coming out of the woodwork.

I think that would be young Kenton Carnegie who was pulled down at least 3 times before being killed by at least 4 wolves.
Seasoned trackers said it was wolves...Gov't insisted it was a bear...in mid November .