Mr556a1
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I was told by the HK rep that the distance between the pins are the same in the US version - what it is different is the pin itself. Now they need to be punched out. The rifle was targeted towards the "target crowd" - HK has decided that HK223/556 will be the same everywhere in the world.
The upper and lower receivers ( the aluminum) parts are made in the US. The barrel blank as well as all the guts (gas system and bolt group) are imported from Germany.
The upper and lower receivers ( the aluminum) parts are made in the US. The barrel blank as well as all the guts (gas system and bolt group) are imported from Germany.
What I read(not from HK), was that the pin is the standard size, it uses a smaller push-pin inside the regular pin like on a Swiss Arms. That makes it look smaller.
As I said, I didn't get that from HK though, so I could be wrong.
My understanding is the barrels are being finished and rails supplied by Daniel Defense. The rest of the gun is HK GmbH and Wilcox.
Us getting European(I think Italian market) guns with the offset pins is the price to pay for getting things earlier than the USA, as well as State Department rules.
I'd be interested in a US market gun or just the upper for sure though.
As I said, I didn't get that from HK though, so I could be wrong.
My understanding is the barrels are being finished and rails supplied by Daniel Defense. The rest of the gun is HK GmbH and Wilcox.
Us getting European(I think Italian market) guns with the offset pins is the price to pay for getting things earlier than the USA, as well as State Department rules.
I'd be interested in a US market gun or just the upper for sure though.
I don't know. People are saying different things about the same guns that were displayed at SHOT. Maybe different reps have been saying different things. Here's a picture that we took at the HK booth with a closeup of the pins. You need a punch to push out the pins.
Even if the hole spacing is standard AR, I doubt that HK will sell the uppers on their own.
The punch-out pins are what I read about too. I think that is the problem, different reps are giving out different info.
But on another site, I thought I saw that the uppers are going to be released on their own.....
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Thanks for a wonderful contribution to this conversation.
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/
The whole "HK: Because you suck, and we hate you" thing is a joke.
But yah, I'd hardly say it was contributing to the discussion...
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The whole "HK: Because you suck, and we hate you" thing is a joke.
Yeah, I know.
But it's as old and tired as 'sheeple', unwashed masses, knife registry, and all the other crap that gets trotted out on this site.
I surely do hope an AR compatible 556 upper will be available - one with a lighter barrel as well. The one at SHOT ( and the German version) are still heavy as hell. It is a shame that HK won't produce a regular lower - because their lower and trigger groups are the best I have ever seen and experienced.
The HK rep we talked to was pretty passionate about the 416 - he kept saying he used one in combat and he will not go back to a regular AR.
The HK rep we talked to was pretty passionate about the 416 - he kept saying he used one in combat and he will not go back to a regular AR.
The sign says it will be interchangable with other AR lowers,so what is the story here?
Photo credit: SMGLee taken from M4Carbine.net
It will interesting when the 556A1 hits the streets,I guess only then will the real answer be known.
Reaper, you know what? I think this was on the other side of the display for the MR556 and MR762 that we were looking at! Why didn't the rep show us these guns on the other side when we asked about the upper compatibility? I thought that the guns on both sides were just copies of the same thing.
