First gun question. Please help

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm really stubborn and would prefer to get the g17. I understand why it'd be smart to start off with a .22 but ....

With recoil I think I can work with it, I'm 6'3 180 pounds if that influences it at all.

I took a married couple out to the range last year. He had fired a rifle before (once) but never a handgun. Since he is built like a gorilla, after a bit of practice with a Smith & Wesson 586 he was consistently shooting six inch groups at ten meters -- very respectable for a beginner. But what got me was his wife, as frail and delicate as a tropical flower: I started her on .22 and she immediately complained that it was wimpy. She wanted, and got, my .40 S&W Steyr and loved it. She also managed passable groups although at only five meters, but then the Steyr is inherently less accurate than the wheel gun.

So, no, recoil is not going to bother you.

I would recommend, however, that you put your money and time into joining a club and delay the gun purchase for a short time. You will probably find members of your club willing to let you try out their various guns and might find something you like better.
 
With recoil I think I can work with it, I'm 6'3 180 pounds if that influences it at all. noise isn't a big deal, I bought ear plugs as well as ear muffs already.

It has very little to do with recoil. It is about flinching. I have seen some big guys flinch so much they miss the entire target and target stand at 5 to 7 metres.

Flinching is a subconscious reaction, and EVERYONE develops a flinch at some point. There is also a huge range in the severity of a flinch. An example, if you are bullseye shooting, a blinking type flinch can open up your groups by an inch or more at 10m, yet it is something you wouldn't even realize you are doing.

Yet one of my daughters (a number of years ago, 14 years old and really skinny) was shooting a really light/short 45 calibre muzzleloading rifle loaded up pretty good. It was just about knocking her off her feet, yet she was still getting 3 to 4 inch, 10 shot groups at 50m offhand (standing). We thought the lighter rifle would be easier for her to handle. Oops, :redface: so we switched her to a heavier rifle to dampen the recoil simply so it wouldn't pound her as much. Has she continued with the lighter rifle, she might have developed a flinch. However a few years (of competition) later she DID develop a flinch and it took quite a bit of coaching to get rid of it. (dry firing, firing the muzzleloader with only caps, etc)
 
I would recommend, however, that you put your money and time into joining a club and delay the gun purchase for a short time. You will probably find members of your club willing to let you try out their various guns and might find something you like better.

I found about 5 different ranges in my general area that I'm going to check out next week actually.

It has very little to do with recoil. It is about flinching. I have seen some big guys flinch so much they miss the entire target and target stand at 5 to 7 metres.

Flinching is a subconscious reaction, and EVERYONE develops a flinch at some point. There is also a huge range in the severity of a flinch. An example, if you are bullseye shooting, a blinking type flinch can open up your groups by an inch or more at 10m, yet it is something you wouldn't even realize you are doing.

Yet one of my daughters (a number of years ago, 14 years old and really skinny) was shooting a really light/short 45 calibre muzzleloading rifle loaded up pretty good. It was just about knocking her off her feet, yet she was still getting 3 to 4 inch, 10 shot groups at 50m offhand (standing). We thought the lighter rifle would be easier for her to handle. Oops, :redface: so we switched her to a heavier rifle to dampen the recoil simply so it wouldn't pound her as much. Has she continued with the lighter rifle, she might have developed a flinch. However a few years (of competition) later she DID develop a flinch and it took quite a bit of coaching to get rid of it. (dry firing, firing the muzzleloader with only caps, etc)

Well I haven't tried yet so I'm not sure whether or not I will. What do you suggest I do in case I do end up flinching? (other then getting a .22)
 
Well I haven't tried yet so I'm not sure whether or not I will. What do you suggest I do in case I do end up flinching? (other then getting a .22)

1) Dry firing, (no ammo in gun just practice as if you are firing)

2) Have someone else load a mag for you with a dummy round or two so you will never know if it is going to go off or not. Will become VERY obvious if you are flinching or not.

To fix a flinch (or prevent one), think about it in terms of LETTING the gun fire, not MAKING the gun fire. It is a subtle, but very significant psychological difference.
 
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