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Hey guys,

I just installed a Knoxx recoil reducing stock on my Winchester 1300. The stock sits a little higher than it does on my 870 clone and, because I am one of those no neck hobbit types :) I cannot get my head into position to draw a bead down the barrel.

What I'm looking for is a front and rear sight setup that I can have installed on my 1300 to alleviate this problem. The gun is mainly used for bear protection so actually being able to sight and shoot would be great!!!

Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks.
 
do you have a rib on your barrel?

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before you spend a couple hundred bucks on a set of sights and installation, look at some Tru-Glo options for smoothbore barrels. i had a similar problem as you on my Knoxx stocked 870 but not just because of the stock but also because for some reason the 870 Express came from the factory with the matte gray bead about 1/2 buried in the rib, with only the top part showing :runaway:
it was impossible to see the bead.

i mounted a Tru-Glo bead like this:
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and it raised the bead just enough for me to be able to sight properly. it just screws in place of the factory bead so it would work with smoothbore. they are only $6, and id recommend at least trying this before you go for the much more expensive ghost rings.
ive never tried them but they also have clip-on sights like this for barrels without a rib that go over the bead and also raise the bead a little:
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i was originally worried that they would fly off under recoil but they use rare earth magnets and are on very tight. i have a set of these on my turkey gun and i have been very pleased with them:
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^they are by no means target sights, but they are adjustable and accurate enough for shotgun work and easy to see - they were a vast improvement for me on my turkey gun.
just putting this out there as something to try before you go with ghost rings, which while certainly a superior solution will cost you a couple hundred bucks. worst case it might not raise the bead enough for you and you are out about $10.
 
dorm said:
Hey guys,

I just installed a Knoxx recoil reducing stock on my Winchester 1300. The stock sits a little higher than it does on my 870 clone and, because I am one of those no neck hobbit types :) I cannot get my head into position to draw a bead down the barrel.

What I'm looking for is a front and rear sight setup that I can have installed on my 1300 to alleviate this problem. The gun is mainly used for bear protection so actually being able to sight and shoot would be great!!!

Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks.
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How was your site plane with the factory stock?
 
As far as I can tell you have two options. First, why did you install that stock on your gun? If it's a full length hunting gun, I just cant see that. I'm assuming it falls under the "other" catagory. By far the easiest option would be to install a mount and scope or other optic. I'll never recommend a battery powered sight for anything, but lots of guys like them. I believe the stock you installed was really meant to be used with some form of optic. Your other option would be to have a shim made up out of some material that will ad a bit of drop to your stock. It's not really a big deal, any decent shop could produce somthing to fit in the wedge on the back of the reciever, and it wouldn't take much I'm sure to get you back on target. Good luck.
 
manbearpig said:
before you spend a couple hundred bucks on a set of sights and installation, look at some Tru-Glo options for smoothbore barrels.
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I have the tru-glo on the front but it still does not work for me. I need a rear sight also i believe so I can "dial in".

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Win/64 said:
How was your site plane with the factory stock?
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Excellent, but with my arthritic bones I really need the recoil reducer. I put one on my 870 clone and just swear by it. That's why I wanted one for my Defender as well.
 
pharaoh2 said:
As far as I can tell you have two options. First, why did you install that stock on your gun? If it's a full length hunting gun, I just cant see that. I'm assuming it falls under the "other" catagory.
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You're right. It does. I don't use this for birds or any other game - strictly bear medicine. I think I'll follow some of the previous advice though and install a rear sight to go with the Tru-Glo front. Thanks for your help though.
 
Installing a Weaver base or Picatinny rail to the receiver of your Winchester should provide a good platform for installing a rear ghost ring, and there are several designed to be attached to a Weaver/Pic base including NECG and XS. The front sight is probably a gunsmith issue, as it must match the height of the rear sight. The glue on solutions don't seem to be the best option either.

I am not a fan of fiber optic sights. IMHO they are too fragile, and do not provide an index of elevation as a flat top post does. If a shotgun is used under difficult conditions, it is often the muzzle and front sight that sees damage first. A front post made out of brass is a good choice as it contrasts with almost any natural color, and appears white against black and black against white. Such a post could be fashioned for any number of front ramp styles.
 
dorm said:
Excellent, but with my arthritic bones I really need the recoil reducer. I put one on my 870 clone and just swear by it. That's why I wanted one for my Defender as well.
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does the Winchester 1300 version of the Knoxx have a different drop at comb than the Remington 870 one? have you put the guns side by side and compared? im just curious.


you do have another option - Casey at TacOrd http://www.tacord.com/ sells the Wilson Combat/Scattergun Tech ghost rings at a very good price - i believe when i last checked they were actually cheaper than the US Brownells price and TacOrd is in Canada. his are the Tritium versions.
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theyre for the 870, but im sure if you PMed him he could tell you whether or not he could install them on a 1300. he charges $145 for the sights and IIRC $70 for installation.
 
I wonder if a Knoxx Compstock might not work better? Its recoil dampening isn't supposed to be as great as the Spec Ops but it looks a lot closer to "factory" parameters.

It's basically just a Hogue stock modified with a recoil dampening mechanism.
 
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