M-14 and a brake?
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So much for the M14 not being controllable in full auto.
Not yet.
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- Edmonton, AB
does it come in black, Sean?
I'll ask him tomorrow afternoon
I'll also ask him to make another run of the break he used to make for the standard barrels.... I really liked those
Next week I'll be receiving a run of 1/2x28 vortex flash hiders in .308 bore and will update my dealer add once in stock, they will be matte black. Of all the short barrel muzzle devices I've tried, I like the vortex. Seems to reduce muzzle climb somewhat, recoil in the m14 is minimal anyways so not concerned with reducing it and the vortex doesn't give the muzzle blast that most breaks do.
I like the old dlask large hole multiport and the smith ent coast guard for use on standard length barrels. Bonus with the smith is it comes with a front sight base. (Order from albertatacticalrifle here on cgn)
For shorty barrels I'll stick to a vortex
But DOC-M I thought you were allready the fat kid on the cupcake.
LOL
K.Y.
What, we're calling you "cupcake" now? LOL!
On another note, look for the thread I'm gonna put up with my newly painted Savage in the next few days... she's a looker now!
-M
The vortex is a flash suppressor not a muzzle brake, I have one on a shorty and does nothing to control muzzle climb . BTW Doesn’t Smith Enterprises have a patent pending for the vortex suppressor as it is their registered trademark, if so cloning the vortex and commercially selling them is probably breaking the law - just a thought.
The dlask vortex was brought to smith's attention some 7 years ago.
If there was a case to be made I'm sure it would have happened long ago.
Smith enterprise vortex flash hiders to the best of my knowledge are ITAR controlled and are not availlable for export out of the states. Muzzle brakes are permitted however. Also, the vortex is a u.s. Patent and patent pending is not a legal protection. Also, if an item is not exportable due to government regulation, how can one even legally pursue a binding patent in a foreign country.
I'll leave the legalities of it up to the manufacturers to hash out. The product is availlable in canada, and in demand by my customers.
If we follow the logic above, the marstar AKM stock is a clone of the sage.....and if we dig deeper we will find many "unobtainium" items being made in canada and abroad that are filling the void that restrictive US regulation is causing in the firearms accessory industry.
The vortex is not a muzzle brake, I didn't say it was.
Regardless it is a viable option, here in canada for those who want them.
Fab Sport had a batch of YHM AR 15 COMBINATION compensater PLUS flash hiders, that he was almost giving away last year.
These of course, were designed for an AR 15, and bored for the .223 bullets. By a happy coincidence, experimentation with this rather unique COMBO design, showed that simply boring the center hole out bigger [ I used .375" ] resulted in a very effective CHEAP muzzle brake for the shorty M14s. As for the F/H part of the equation, since I have no real plans to play on the two way range, I don't really care about the flash .... and with a 7.62 NATO or .308 Win round, there IS a lot of FLASH coming out of an M14 shorty. Enough to blind zombis and werewolves and vampires, for sure.
The el cheapo YHM brake was perhaps not the most efficient brake out there, but it was pretty darned good. Resting a shorty fore end on a sand bag, touching off a round did not lift the fore end off the bag any significant amount.
Good enough for faster, target rich, CQB govt work ... we all know, of course that Zombis and Vampires and Werewolves usually travel in packs, thereby justifying the use of the hard hitting, one shot stopper M14 shorty, rather than a faster, lighter recoiling, and less hard hitting poodle shooter aka the triple tapper.
Sean is sending me some of his NEW Rauch Tactical muzzle brakes to do a test review on. Look for it in the near future.
TTFN
LAZ 1
These of course, were designed for an AR 15, and bored for the .223 bullets. By a happy coincidence, experimentation with this rather unique COMBO design, showed that simply boring the center hole out bigger [ I used .375" ] resulted in a very effective CHEAP muzzle brake for the shorty M14s. As for the F/H part of the equation, since I have no real plans to play on the two way range, I don't really care about the flash .... and with a 7.62 NATO or .308 Win round, there IS a lot of FLASH coming out of an M14 shorty. Enough to blind zombis and werewolves and vampires, for sure.
The el cheapo YHM brake was perhaps not the most efficient brake out there, but it was pretty darned good. Resting a shorty fore end on a sand bag, touching off a round did not lift the fore end off the bag any significant amount.
Good enough for faster, target rich, CQB govt work ... we all know, of course that Zombis and Vampires and Werewolves usually travel in packs, thereby justifying the use of the hard hitting, one shot stopper M14 shorty, rather than a faster, lighter recoiling, and less hard hitting poodle shooter aka the triple tapper.
Sean is sending me some of his NEW Rauch Tactical muzzle brakes to do a test review on. Look for it in the near future.
TTFN
LAZ 1
Yes, I see a lot of knock off stuff is being made in Canada these days.
But,
Canada became part of the Patent Cooperation Treaty, January 2 1990. RE:http://www.wipo.int/pct/en/texts/articles/atoc.htm which means US patents are valid in Canada and potential patent violators may be subjected to US jurisdiction via international law. RE:http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/dapp/pctstate.html
Just because Smith has not filed formal action does not mean they won’t in future. The “Patent Pending” marking serves to notify potential infringers who would copy the invention that they may be liable for damages (including back-dated royalties), seizure, and injunction once a patent is issued.
So I guess if you think the risk is worth it have at it.
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Here we go again with all this vortex stuff and I'm not to interested in the debate. Topics been beat to death. I don't make them, I didn't commission their manufacture, and thet have been on the market for at least 7 years.
I also instal Vaais, smithent brakes, YHM flash hiders, and more. I coincidentally have a run of 1/2x28 muzzle brakes, not my design, that will be avillable mid next week. They will be black.
I also instal Vaais, smithent brakes, YHM flash hiders, and more. I coincidentally have a run of 1/2x28 muzzle brakes, not my design, that will be avillable mid next week. They will be black.
I'll ask him tomorrow afternoon
I'll also ask him to make another run of the break he used to make for the standard barrels.... I really liked those
Next week I'll be receiving a run of 1/2x28 vortex flash hiders in .308 bore and will update my dealer add once in stock, they will be matte black. Of all the short barrel muzzle devices I've tried, I like the vortex. Seems to reduce muzzle climb somewhat, recoil in the m14 is minimal anyways so not concerned with reducing it and the vortex doesn't give the muzzle blast that most breaks do.
I like the old dlask large hole multiport and the smith ent coast guard for use on standard length barrels. Bonus with the smith is it comes with a front sight base. (Order from albertatacticalrifle here on cgn)
For shorty barrels I'll stick to a vortex
any word on the xb2?
