30 WCF Bullet weight debate.

257Roberts

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I would just like to know what bullet weights do the deer hunting cgn's use.
150 vrs 170 gr. Light in flight does it right or heavy and slow is the way to go.
I am trying to decide which one is the better choice and why.
This could get interesting.
257 Roberts
 
if I hunted with a 30-30, I'd opt for a 170 grain, as the 30-30 isnt fast anyways, and Id feel more comfortable with the extra penetration the 170 grainer would offer, bullet construction being equal, over the 150. Id probably load the 170 grain Nosler Par'smashem ;)
 
150vs170

i use the 170 grn Hornady, watched my son fold up a four point whitetail at a measured 195 yards like he had been struck by lightning.
My son was 12 at the time and I had loaded down to 1825 fps at the muzzle out of a stevens 325c. That sure made a believer out of me that slow and heavy works just fine!
 
So far the west is in the lead with 170 gr.
Thanks guys, I was thinking the same.
Here in ON where I deer hunt we seem to measure our shots in feet rather than yards.
257 Roberts
 
I am from the mid east/west. (Ont Man border) All of my .30 WCF's just shoot the 170 grain bullets better. Hard to beat a 170 Power Point or Corelokt bullet. I do have a stash of 170 Sabre Tips (CIL) I am saving for a rainy day.

cheers Darryl
 
170 is the best of the two weights. Penetrates very well at 30-30 velocities, and even moose shot in the vitals at moderate distances die quickly. Regards, Eagleye.
 
My .30/30 load consists of a 195 gr hard cast bullet with a gas check ahead of 30.0 grs of Winchester 760. Pleasant to shoot, light recoil, low noise despite the slow powder, and accurate to 150 yards. IIRC, I'm getting about 1800 fps, but I can't check my data right now.
 
The reputation of the 30-30 was built with the 170 grain bullet. In the homestead years when backwoods people lived on wild game, all year, the only weight bullets available for the 30-30 in country stores, was the 170 grain.
At one time the RCMP stationed in the artic was given ammunition to distribute free to the natives, as required, for shooting caribou and such. The only ammunition given was 30-30 in 170 grain weight. The Dominion Ammunition Co. stamped a number on the box, indicating this was what the box of ammo was for.
I happen to have such an empty box.
 
Have had good success with 150gr PPFN bullets & H4895 out to 100 yards. Even popped an impala in Africa with it and he hit the deck right then and there. I'll probably load up some 170gr bullets just for the sake of doing it, shoot a deer with one and then I can tell you that they work well too :D
 
The reputation of the 30-30 was built with the 170 grain bullet. In the homestead years when backwoods people lived on wild game, all year, the only weight bullets available for the 30-30 in country stores, was the 170 grain.
At one time the RCMP stationed in the artic was given ammunition to distribute free to the natives, as required, for shooting caribou and such. The only ammunition given was 30-30 in 170 grain weight. The Dominion Ammunition Co. stamped a number on the box, indicating this was what the box of ammo was for.
I happen to have such an empty box.

Is that the box with "Seal load" stamped on it? Or was that load made by Winchester?
 
Is that the box with "Seal load" stamped on it? Or was that load made by Winchester?

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This CIL load just had something coded on the box to indicate it was not to be in commercial use, but to be given out by the RCMP. A relative in the RCMP gave these out, in about the 1970s.
 
Win 748 /34.5gr-150gr bullet/Fed mag primer/Win or Fed brass..........Win 748/ 32 gr-170gr bullet/Fed mag primer/Win or Fed brass............many deer + moose....Harold
 
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