Why do you love your Lee Enfield?
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The first rifle that I bought(with my dad with me) was when I was 12. Lee enfield No4 Mk1 full military for $45.00 from an old school gun shop. You know when you could walk amongst the fire arms and you didnt have to worry about them jumping out of the racks and biting you as you walked past. Now I am issued one and do not look forward to the day when they want to replace it with some abortion style huntin rifle!
Cheers
JeffA
Cheers
JeffA
Your right the majority probably need a refit but mine shoots like a laser!!
I have been in 3 different Ranger Patrols and from what I have seen for the most part excluding Rangers that want to be proficient with their issue weapon the issue rifle as a whole fills the need of the average Ranger as far as Holy #### theres a bear!! I have yet to see one not be able to hit a bear size target at 5 yards! (little light humor there)
Cheers
JeffA
I have been in 3 different Ranger Patrols and from what I have seen for the most part excluding Rangers that want to be proficient with their issue weapon the issue rifle as a whole fills the need of the average Ranger as far as Holy #### theres a bear!! I have yet to see one not be able to hit a bear size target at 5 yards! (little light humor there)Cheers
JeffA
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- Tucson, Arizona
I must like something about them since I go from a 1891 Lee metford to a L42A1 with roughly 160 in between. Thanks to Milarm I have some really spectacular Long Lee's.
Have bought cutaways from New Zealand and the U.K. ,have fencing muskets, Drill rifles and other odds and ends.
One I had a hard time finding was a Canadian Prize rifle. (seems like every time I found one for sale some rich bugger beat me to it.) The Canadian prize rifle was actualy found at an Arms fair in London
Americans made the best target rifle
Germans made the best hunting tifle
But the British made the best military rifle
(bolt action)
Have bought cutaways from New Zealand and the U.K. ,have fencing muskets, Drill rifles and other odds and ends.
One I had a hard time finding was a Canadian Prize rifle. (seems like every time I found one for sale some rich bugger beat me to it.) The Canadian prize rifle was actualy found at an Arms fair in London
Americans made the best target rifle
Germans made the best hunting tifle
But the British made the best military rifle
(bolt action)
Mosins get the job done.Also IMHO the Pattern 14 Enfield was the best Enfield built...even then I'd trade mine in tomorrow for a P17 as I'd rather have the 30.06 then .303.
You my friend have obviously never held a Swedish Mauser in your arms.
Until it jams, then yes the charging Bear will make you history.
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Until it jams? Lee enfields have been putting round holes in square heads for over 60 years so they must not jam very often. AND they are STILL in use in other parts of the world.
Not the rifle the russians most feard in Afghanistan was , you guessed it, the Lee enfield because it outranged the AK they were armed with.
AND they are STILL in use in other parts of the world.Not the rifle the russians most feard in Afghanistan was , you guessed it, the Lee enfield because it outranged the AK they were armed with.
My LE
I have a variety of firearms. I own only one bolt action military rifle. A 1943 Long Branch Lee Enfield No 4 Mk I. The numbers match, bolt, stock, magazine and reciever. I have owned it since 1993 when I purchased it for $200. It is in good condition and the bore is clean. I have previously owned Mk III's and V's.
I don't consider the Lee Enfield to be a great looking rifle. I would use the word purposeful. There is no question what the role it was designed for is. I like the sighting system, magazine capacity and feel of it. The bayonet attaches quickly and easily. The brass but plate will break all of someone’s chicklets out in a stroke. This is a weapon plain and simple. A very effective one.
My Paternal Grandfather and a number of my Dad,s uncles carried these fine implements of war in WWII. My Mother's brother carried one in Korea, he was 16 at the time with permission from his dad. It has a very special meaning to me. It is definitely part of our heritage.
Put me in WWII and give me a choice and I'll take an MI Garand please.
I have a variety of firearms. I own only one bolt action military rifle. A 1943 Long Branch Lee Enfield No 4 Mk I. The numbers match, bolt, stock, magazine and reciever. I have owned it since 1993 when I purchased it for $200. It is in good condition and the bore is clean. I have previously owned Mk III's and V's.
I don't consider the Lee Enfield to be a great looking rifle. I would use the word purposeful. There is no question what the role it was designed for is. I like the sighting system, magazine capacity and feel of it. The bayonet attaches quickly and easily. The brass but plate will break all of someone’s chicklets out in a stroke. This is a weapon plain and simple. A very effective one.
My Paternal Grandfather and a number of my Dad,s uncles carried these fine implements of war in WWII. My Mother's brother carried one in Korea, he was 16 at the time with permission from his dad. It has a very special meaning to me. It is definitely part of our heritage.
Put me in WWII and give me a choice and I'll take an MI Garand please.
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Until it jams? Lee enfields have been putting round holes in square heads for over 60 years so they must not jam very often.
Not the rifle the russians most feard in Afghanistan was , you guessed it, the Lee enfield because it outranged the AK they were armed with.
Peasants with Mosins have been doing the same for over a 100 years, I see Vietnam is still not a 51st state.
BTW Hind D beats Enfield.
In my cartridge collection, I have one AK-47 round, "liberated" from Vietnam, and then brought back to the US as a throphy, and I showed it to a friend, who carried a M-60 MG for nine months out there, and I never forget the his reaction when he saw this tool of war, costing no more than few cents to produce. He was for few seconds shocked and speechless...and I can from that reaction only conclude the G.I's had a healty respect for the AK-47 round ?
The reason he also had to give up his M60 MG after nine months, was because his commanding officer thought that it was time someone else was issued his MG, because the machine gunners and radio operators were always the prime target for "Charlie" snipers, because of their firepower and control of airplanes with bombs.
The reason he also had to give up his M60 MG after nine months, was because his commanding officer thought that it was time someone else was issued his MG, because the machine gunners and radio operators were always the prime target for "Charlie" snipers, because of their firepower and control of airplanes with bombs.
Until it jams, then yes the charging Bear will make you history.
Having owned an all matching 1934 Nagant 91/30 and a Savage No.4 Mk.1/3, I can say without a doubt the Enfield is superior in every way. The enfield holds twice the number of rounds, the sights are better, its more accurate and the bolt cycles a hell of alot faster. I have never had a jamming issue with either rifle however.
I would much rather face a charging bear with an Enfield than a Nagant. That being said, I like Nagants aswell because I have tons of surplus ammo and I have a good time at the range with them.
Peasants with Mosins have been doing the same for over a 100 years, I see Vietnam is still not a 51st state.
BTW Hind D beats Enfield.
The reason the enfield is superior can be seen in Korea. Enfields and M1's are the reason why there is still a democratic south. The Nagants of the north didn't win that one. If it wasnt for the Chinese, the enitre Korean peninsula would probably be a democratic state today.
Actually I heard from a few American and Canadian Korean War vets the old Enfields were dropped and traded for M1's and Machine guns by the retreating Americans when ever the opportunity arose. The Americans troops felt sorry for our troops.
And the Chinese stopped their march further south as they ran out of bugle players.
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Peasants with Mosins have been doing the same for over a 100 years, I see Vietnam is still not a 51st state.
Why in the hell would anybody want Vietnam as a state?
Please note the the VC lost every battle and the North was getting ready to call it quits until we had traitors like Kerry and his buddies kissing their ass.
Why he was never tried for treason is beyond my understanding.
Of course when the FWENCH asked for our help getting their colony back, we should have told them to PISS AWF!
GameStalker30-06
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I'm gonna love them...Always wanted a couple of enfields...just purchased my first!!.. #5 jungle carbine...out of the grease...no marks,or anything anywhere on this gun..Watch out moose
I'm gonna love them...Always wanted a couple of enfields...just purchased my first!!.. #5 jungle carbine...out of the grease...no marks,or anything anywhere on this gun..Watch out moose
Congrats! Ive always loved the No.5's. My next enfield will definetly be one of those and hopfully a bayonet for it if I get lucky enough.
I have seen pictures of candian troops carrying the Garand in Korea.
However, both the creations of Lee-Enfield and the Garand is clearly linked to Canada. James Paris Lee grew up and lived as an adult for many years in Canada, as well invented the clip magazine for the Lee-Enfield rifle while visiting family in Canada, and Garand was born canadian, and first moved to the US as a teenager, so for canadian troops in Korea to be issued Lee-Enfield rifles, and later trade them in for Garand rifles should, means that they in reality just traded one canadian gun for another ?
The reasons for that exchange of battle rifles for canadian troops in Korea, could also have been logistics, in order to make it easier to supply ammo to the UN soldiers in Korea ?
However, both the creations of Lee-Enfield and the Garand is clearly linked to Canada. James Paris Lee grew up and lived as an adult for many years in Canada, as well invented the clip magazine for the Lee-Enfield rifle while visiting family in Canada, and Garand was born canadian, and first moved to the US as a teenager, so for canadian troops in Korea to be issued Lee-Enfield rifles, and later trade them in for Garand rifles should, means that they in reality just traded one canadian gun for another ?
The reasons for that exchange of battle rifles for canadian troops in Korea, could also have been logistics, in order to make it easier to supply ammo to the UN soldiers in Korea ?
The LE is a sentimental favourite and was a fine fighting rifle in it's time. It was eclipsed by the Garand in WW2 and was an anachronism in Korea-a legacy of the Commonwealth connection. We issued extra BRENs in Korea to compensate for it's lack of firepower against the Chinese (how many hordes were in a Chinese platoon anyway?). The relatively static nature of the fighting there also allowed the Vickers MMG to be employed to good advantage and we enjoyed an overwhelming superiority in artillery and air which was decisive.
I've owned many LEs since about 1962 and have enjoyed hunting and shooting with them and have taken many mulies and whitetails, a moose,and a nice black bear boar with a sporterized No5.
Without turning this into another one of those neverending bear defence threads, I'd sooner be pumping a shotgun or shooting a Garand than cranking a LE or any other bolt gun in a problem situation where the animal has taken the initiative. I do wildlife damage assessments on forage crops in bear and cat country and have been carrying a short barreled M870 12 ga when working the remote fields. I'm going to switch to one of my International Harvester(kind of apropos for ag work) Garands with 165gr Sierra HPBTs this summer.
I've owned many LEs since about 1962 and have enjoyed hunting and shooting with them and have taken many mulies and whitetails, a moose,and a nice black bear boar with a sporterized No5.
Without turning this into another one of those neverending bear defence threads, I'd sooner be pumping a shotgun or shooting a Garand than cranking a LE or any other bolt gun in a problem situation where the animal has taken the initiative. I do wildlife damage assessments on forage crops in bear and cat country and have been carrying a short barreled M870 12 ga when working the remote fields. I'm going to switch to one of my International Harvester(kind of apropos for ag work) Garands with 165gr Sierra HPBTs this summer.
