The little shottie that could

manbearpig said:
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IMHO you should have stopped there.
i actually think that old worn bluing and beaten up guns look nice, also more functional with a full stock.
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Going to have to agree with that. Its not my gun though, so aslong as he is happy with it.
 
How does it pattern? I want to do this with a double barrel (already done it with a single shot) but I've done a bit of reading and come to the conclusion that the Point of aim and point of impact will probably be off due to the way the barrels are regulated (no longer regulated after being cut down) because the method used to regulate most double barrels is put in place closer to the muzzle. I realize that accuracy is not the prime concern when making of of these (as said i've done it already aswell) but its still nice to be able to point the gun at something and hit it. Just curious, very nice job by the way i really like what you've done with the old girl.
 
Nice work.

A suggestion for an insulated foregrip to hold onto since you'll need one now that you don't have a shoulder stock. Check the local hotrod shops for some scrap lengths of header wrap tape. It's a glass fiber sort of stuff that has a water soluble sizing in it that when wet down slickly goes over stuff like your barrels and lightly bonds into place. Then since it doesn't look all that great on it's own wrap your paracord over the area that is now protected by the tape and finish it off with a nice braided grip stop at the front end. And if you can find somewhere (I've never had any luck with my searching) how to wrap the paracord in a samurai sword manner then that would be a super bonus. The header wrap will now nicely insulate the paracord and your hand from overheating and form a great looking hand grip area for holding down the barrel during those hip shots... :D
 
What paint did you use for the barrel? It looks almost like bed liner spray on the grip and forend? I'm I correct?
Eric
 
Its Krylon Flat Tan and the receiver and stock were painted with Krylon Flat Black...

I guess I'll have to take some of your advices in consideration lol
 
it does look good but by cutting the stock ity is not usless passed 10 yards to try to hit anything with it with out a stock is near imposable .i can see cutting the pipes but why the stock DUTCH
 
straightshooter said:
When it comes to chopping back older shotguns, beware. Few seem to realise that most of the shotguns on Tradex, and lots of older shotguns in general, are chambered in 2 1/2 inch. These guns should not be fired with 2 3/4" shells. The increased pressures generated when the shell crimp has nowhere to properly open into is the cause of the more noticeable felt recoil. Add to that the reduced weight available to absorb this additional recoil, and you're creating a real knucklebuster in every sense.

But this is trivial compared to the real danger. Many, if not most, 2 1/2" chambered shotguns were never proofed for nitro (modern smokeless) gunpower. The pressures generated by these powders, compared to the pressures generated by the black powder charges that the guns were built for, are in the neighborhood of 2 times as high. On top of that, old guns sometimes harbour weaknesses due to damage and corrosion. Just to be certain you're being foolish, throw in the wrong length of shells as mentioned above, to jack up the pressures even more. Sound like a candidate for a Darwin award? You betcha!!

Are low pressure, 2 1/2" shells still available? Yes, but you won't find them at your neighborhood hardware store, or at most gunshops, for that matter. 2 1/2" black powder shells are REALLY tough to find these days. Reloading is a good option, but you'd better know what you're doing. Use of black powder requires more prompt, better cleaning, too.

This isn't quite the same as tinkering with your Grampa's old Chevy and posting pics on the 'net so everyone can see how clever you are. Get your facts straight before you start playing with fire(arms)!!

Having said that, there are suitable, older guns to use as a platform for such projects. Know which they are before you start, or I'll be seeing you in hell!!

(ETA: Not picking on you, perryb, you seem to know better.)
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Pick on me all you want...if it keeps me outta the hospital or worse, I am all ears. I did some research on the 410 I bought to chop, and it is apparently a 1920-1929 model. There's no way I am going to take my hacksaw and bandsaw to that. It's going to be my restore project only.

All that being said, I guess I'm going back to the EE to find a more current gun to try my hand at a chopped shot gun. I don't know why I want/need one, but there are a few great postings on here about some beautiful results. I guess I just want the fun of doing it more than I want or need the end result.

Thanks for the insight, Straightshooter!
 
Sometimes it's not about need but about fun. We're in Canada where it's frowned on to use our guns for defense. But that doesn't mean we can't do stuff like this for grins n' giggles.
 
dutchhunter said:
it does look good but by cutting the stock ity is not usless passed 10 yards to try to hit anything with it with out a stock is near imposable .i can see cutting the pipes but why the stock DUTCH
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lol, he can still hold it in front of his face, you don't have to hip fire every shot.
Besides, if he's using it as a truck/HD/fun gun you probably wouldn't be shooting much past 10-20 yards anyway.
 
Pooker said:
lol, he can still hold it in front of his face, you don't have to hip fire every shot.
Besides, if he's using it as a truck/HD/fun gun you probably wouldn't be shooting much past 10-20 yards anyway.
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I see the logic... ...busting your face/teeth is much better than a bruised hip!! :confused:
 
Looks great. Always nice to see someone give new life to an old piece, or to make something custom and different. I think you did a great job. Would love to see some video of you shooting a few rounds out of it.
 
Slimbo said:
What do you have the hand/forearm strength of a 8 year old girl? harden the f*ck up!:D
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lol, that's what I'm saying. It's not difficult to fire a pistol grip with out banging yourself in the face with it, hell it's not hard to fire a shotgun with one hand in general. Hitting anything with it, however, that's a whole different story :D
 
I think that's one bad ass looking zombie gun! I'm thinking that a older over and under that Ive got hanging around my gun safe needs a little hack saw work and paint. Hm-mm.
 
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