Norinco M14s or Russian SKS 762x39

GET Both of them... Keep the SKS for Service CQB (you knew that was coming ;) ) since we hosted/ran/held the Service CQB match in Valcartier with our Quebec CGNutz, 3 SKS boomsticks were on the line. AND :eek: ONE of them WON the match! He even shot a Norinco 1911 pistol during the transition phase! :D

While I was one of the Safety Officers, I was amazed how well he handled the SKS during the reloads and transition. This shooter did his homework (mirror is optional). He was no slouch!

Kinda thinking about it... I would not be surprised if we (ORA run Service CQB) see a rise in the SKS participation this coming season!

It would be even funnier to see our Quebec SKS shooters come to my/our matches and dominate the Noveske/LaRue/ KAC crowd... yuk yuk yuk yuk I'm just stirring up the pot here!

Bring 'em on I say!!

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Barney
 
I bought a 1950 russian SKS last summer, and this summer I am buying a M305b Norinco (on pre-order).

Whenever I am at the hunt camp, and everyone wants to try out a new gun to shoot at targets, I will be passing them my SKS, because the ammo is so bloody cheap. I will be shooting the Norinco M-14 though.
 
Forget the SKS and buy a CZ-858!!!
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Brocolt said:
Well it's not really I can't afford it I just don't want to buy both, only one. I like the look of the M14 but it is a Norinco. as for the SKS it would be a Simonov 1945-1951 production lines. might use it for a backup yote & wild pig gun. as for a customizing if it's an SKS I would most likely set it up with a scout rail for optics.

I see a ton of M14's on EE why is that?
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Likely selling their 07s to afford the new ones coming.
Or they pimped them and need cash for a new project.
 
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Ar180shooter said:
You may laugh now, but you won't if you get an SKS and your #### falls off. :p
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Guys help!!! :runaway: My #### fell off because I didn't buy any yet.. I need help to find it.......
Ooooh! it's ok now....
it only fell off because I was :jerkit: it to much :eek: :D

I couldn't resist I had to say it :p There is some very good input here thanks all. reloading is not an issue after my basement is finished I will set up the press right now it's in storage, I'm just trying to keep my gun numbers down I have a good selection of varmint guns. My largest gun right now is .223 both in a Short 11.5" AR15 & A Savage 10FCP-K in .223cal the Ar is great for QCB but I can't use it for hunting, My 10FCP-K is to long & heavy for hunting yote & wild pigs, So I'm looking for a back up gun. I have a 17hmr which would be ok for yote to about 125yrd but not enough stopping power for wild pigs I no longer hunt deer so I'm not worried about that. Most of my hunting is around predators & gophers these days so a .308 could be a good choice I would need to hold a M14 in my hand to make sure I'm not in the same boat with my Savage 10FCP-K for weight.
 
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Brocolt said:
Guys help!!! :runaway: My #### fell off because I didn't buy any yet.. I need help to find it... Oh! it's ok now....
it only fell off because I was :jerkit: it to much :eek: :D

I couldn't resist I had to say it :p There is some very good input here thanks all. reloading is not an issue after my basement is finished I will set up the press right now it's in storage, I'm just trying to keep my gun numbers down I have a good selection of varmint guns. My largest gun right now is .223 both in a Short 11.5" AR15 & A Savage 10FCP-K in .223cal the Ar is great for QCB but I can't use it for hunting, My 10FCP-K is to long & heavy for hunting yote & wild pigs, So I'm looking for a back up gun. I have a 17hmr which would be ok for yote to about 125yrd but not enough stopping power for wild pigs I no longer hunt deer so I'm not worried about that. Most of my hunting is around predators & gophers these days so a .308 could be a good choice I would need to hold a M14 in my hand to make sure I'm not in the same boat with my Savage 10FCP-K for weight.
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Lmfao :D
 
Brocolt said:
I see a ton of M14's on EE why is that?
Because it's a popular firearm owned by many. That means there's likely more people to be selling and buying.

Brocolt said:
I never was a type of guy to go blasting tons of rounds. my day at a range is more like shooting about 20 or so rounds in each gun I take to the range unless it's rimfire then I don't mind blasting a brick off.
In that case, I'd recommend the Norinco. I assume blasting 20 rounds on the range means accuracy is important to you. I think the SKS will need a bit more tuning to perform better. By the way, it may be made in China but if you read the stickies, the recent batch have rated very well in terms of quality and workmanship.
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If you're gonna buy an SKS and shoot corrosive, maybe think about saving $60 and getting a chrome lined Chinese one. Most people buy the SKS as a beater gun so why beat up a Russian one and corrode the bore when you can buy a chinese one and not have to worry as much about cleaning the bore every time you shoot.

If you're complaining about a Savage 10, maybe the M14 isn't for you. Try to handle one before ordering one without ever holding it. But once you've held one, it's game over IMO. I've never seen anyone rack the action on my M14s without getting a big goofy grin.
 
If your looking for an SKS to do something to, look for a Norinco SKS. Cheaper than a Russian models (or used to be), so the mods won't hurt the value much. Might even make it more valuable. Lots of aftermarket stuff for them to pretty much configure it the way you might want.

Or, maybe a Russian refurb sks where the serial numbers aren't matched. Older Russians or Yugo's with matching serials and in good shape are worth more if kept original. You would definately loose money on resale if one of these was modified.
 
guys off the top of your head how long is the Norinco M14 gun in inches & what is the overall weight? Are there any Norinco m14's I should stay from that may have had issues? Where are a good place to buy one. I understand that Marstar is getting some, I take pride in my guns so I want to locate a good run of M14's with a nice finish to it. I'm starting to think m14 is a better choice. How are to mounting system for the scope? is there something better then the cheap side mounts?
 
Brocolt said:
guys off the top of your head how long is the Norinco M14 gun in inches & what is the overall weight? Are there any Norinco m14's I should stay from that may have had issues? Where are a good place to buy one. I understand that Marstar is getting some, I take pride in my guns so I want to locate a good run of M14's with a nice finish to it. I'm starting to think m14 is a better choice. How are to mounting system for the scope? is there something better then the cheap side mounts?
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Normally I would say do your research but this forum is so full of info that it'll take days for you to digest. So I'll help you. It something like 45" at about 10lbs. Not really sure, but you can mod it to be shorter and lighter. The latest batch (2009) of Norinco M14's are getting excellent reviews and probably what you should aim for for least path of resistance. Most of the headspace debacle originate from the pre-2007 batch of M14s. If you can, get the latest one which Marstar is selling at an incredible deal. Speaking of Marstar, johnone has said that he plans to bring Italian made M14s. Rumour mill has the ETA during sometime later this year. They are supposedly of much better quality than the Norincos. If you are willing to wait. SKS wise, Marstar is bringing in a mix bag of 70000+ SKSs for the North American market. Apparently all military grade. This influx is supposedly going to mean much cheaper SKS's than they already are. Anyway, as far as scopes go, I'm no help. I'm young and prefer iron sights :p But I do know that, like the SKS, it's not readily scopable. At least not properly. Best is side mounts to receiver unless you have an aftermarket stock which provide you with interesting options. I highly suggest you look through the stickies at the top of the forum for help. Contacting the authors would be helpful, too as there are a variety of mounts. Cheers and good luck

Hungry here: Headspace debacle... I would say 1990's batch since I bought my first Norc M14 back in 2002, great quality over the 90's renditions (soft bolts, goofy metallurgy). Anything from the Y2K onwards are great keepers. Hey, my current teaching (M14 clinics) M14 is a 2007 stamped Norc. It's all good! ;)

Haha, thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
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a0jc said:
Normally I would say do your research but this forum is so full of info that it'll take days for you to digest. So I'll help you. It something like 45" at about 10lbs. Not really sure, but you can mod it to be shorter and lighter. The latest batch (2009) of Norinco M14's are getting excellent reviews and probably what you should aim for for least path of resistance. Most of the headspace debacle originate from the pre-2007 batch of M14s. If you can, get the latest one which Marstar is selling at an incredible deal. Speaking of Marstar, johnone has said that he plans to bring Italian made M14s. Rumour mill has the ETA during sometime later this year. They are supposedly of much better quality than the Norincos. If you are willing to wait. SKS wise, Marstar is bringing in a mix bag of 70000+ SKSs for the North American market. Apparently all military grade. This influx is supposedly going to mean much cheaper SKS's than they already are. Anyway, as far as scopes go, I'm no help. I'm young and prefer iron sights :p But I do know that, like the SKS, it's not readily scopable. At least not properly. Best is side mounts to receiver unless you have an aftermarket stock which provide you with interesting options. I highly suggest you look through the stickies at the top of the forum for help. Contacting the authors would be helpful, too as there are a variety of mounts. Cheers and good luck

Hungry here: Headspace debacle... I would say 1990's batch since I bought my first Norc M14 back in 2002, great quality over the 90's renditions (soft bolts, goofy metallurgy). Anything from the Y2K onwards are great keepers. Hey, my current teaching (M14 clinics) M14 is a 2007 stamped Norc. It's all good! ;)
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10-4 on that I have been reading a few posts but find when there is a ton of pages it's sometimes hard for me to focus as my monitor sometimes hurts my eyes. there is tons to read and trying to sift through it is a chore. My only 2 problems are getting to know the gun and which to buy, I'm very fussy with my stuff and quality to me is important i.e. find it hard to buy a gun sight un seen even if it is from Marstar or Epps. Thanks for the Imput Guys if you still want to add info I will keep reading as well I will check out soem other posts if you guys also know of some very good info that is Not stickyed put up a hot link I will fallow it.
 
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