Barnes TSX or Nosler Partitions

Wow Sealhunter, your rifle does look just like mine! And your house looks like mine too! If your wife looks like mine too, I know where I'm going to be zeroing that 7mm.08!!:D

Thanks for posting those up for me, I'm not nerdy enough I gues......
 
Toomanyguns said:
Those Boone and Crockett scopes work quite well when paired up with appropriate bullet and muzzle velocity. Awful if the power selector ring is on the wrong setting!
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Yeah, I can see that. I read the instructions over a few times, and think I have the thing figured out, but plan on putting enough rounds downrange to make sure it's second nature before I try it in the field.
 
Like s few others in this thread, I can't avoid tinkering and have tried a number of the bullets mentioned. Haven't had great luck with any of the solid copper bullets in terms of getting pinpoint accuracy. Can't say the same for the Noslers however. Have managed some excellent groups with both accubonds and ballistic tips. 140's are the way to go for most 7mm's (I've had a bunch of them) and for most uses. I've pretty much settled on 14o ballistic tips in my 7x57, .280 AI, and 7mm mag for deer hunting. Results have been impressive. For moose I've used partitions and 160 grain accubonds. I'll stick with the accubonds in the future in the AI and mag. The 7x57 is far and away my favorite of the bunch but a marginal moose gun and, I would assume, also marginal for elk. If I were pressed to use it for such purposes, I'd probably stick with 140s and use the accubonds simply because they shoot better in my rifles and hold together exceptionally well.
 
Twisted Canuck said:
TodB, regarding cost of premium ammo... The price of the premiums is kinda harsh, but I get them for $46 here....still a lot, but the Fusions may not have what I want for the shooting I plan on doing. Saving a dollar a round on ammo won't seem like much of a savings if it compromises a game shot that's important to me....I always tended to buy the least expensive ammo, and also arrows for archery. Then when I started shooting the good stuff, and actually saw the improvement in performance, it changed my mind.

If I want to plink cheap, that's what the .22 is for, and I've got 4 rimfires to play with so I know....
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TC,
Last fall I bought a used 6.5X55.. On my way home from picking up the rifle from the P.O. I stopped by the local sports shop and and bought a box of Federal Fusion 140 gr. as I didn't have any handloaded ammo ready to go..
First three shots at the range .366", then I put the 6.5 aside to cool the barrel and started sighting in my neighbor's POS .303 Mk whatever with it's crappy trigger.. After I finished with the .303 I finished out the 6.5 Fed. Fusion group by pulling the the 4 th shot of the group because the 6.5 trigger is very light and it went off unexpectedly increasing the group to 1.02".. the 5 th shot went into the center of the first 3 shots ending up with a 1.02" 5 shot group with 4 in .366"
The Fusion is a "bonded" bullet and while they may not penetrate as deep as a Barnes TSX I would consider the Fusion to be a better bullet for deer on down and would have no qualms using them on moose with a 6.5X55..
Federal and Speer are owned by ATK and Speer is coming out with a new bullet (Deep Curl) this year which I suspect is the same bullet as the Fusion. They are both a plated bonded bullet and they are priced the same as the HOTCORE bullet that they are replacing over time..
If the relative cheap Deep Curl bonded bullets are as accurate as the Fusion bullet a person would be a fool to waste $ in the premiums for most hunting situations and esp. for deer..
JMO..:)
 
nrut said:
TC,
The Fusion is a "bonded" bullet and while they may not penetrate as deep as a Barnes TSX I would consider the Fusion to be a better bullet for deer on down and would have no qualms using them on moose with a 6.5X55..
Federal and Speer are owned by ATK and Speer is coming out with a new bullet (Deep Curl) this year which I suspect is the same bullet as the Fusion. They are both a plated bonded bullet and they are priced the same as the HOTCORE bullet that they are replacing over time..
If the relative cheap Deep Curl bonded bullets are as accurate as the Fusion bullet a person would be a fool to waste $ in the premiums for most hunting situations and esp. for deer..
JMO..:)
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I had the same experience with my new 300wsm actually last fall. My groups were incredible with the stuff and it dropped 5 deer with one shot from ranges of 75 to 300 yards! Never recovered one bullet as they were all passthroughs with about 2" exit holes.
A very good fall back and I'm not really sure I can do better with my handloads to be honest... still going to try though!
 
sealhunter said:
Nice rifle, I have one just like it, see my pics below :D


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Why are the rings mounted so close to the center of the scope? Just curious...
 
crazy_davey said:
Why are the rings mounted so close to the center of the scope? Just curious...
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No particular reason, other than the weaver bases were on the rifle when I got it, and that's where the keyway slots were located for the rings. It wouldn't take much to change it around, but didn't see much need to. My eye relief is fine, and unless there is some advantage to be gained by changing it around.....?
 
Twisted Canuck said:
No particular reason, other than the weaver bases were on the rifle when I got it, and that's where the keyway slots were located for the rings. It wouldn't take much to change it around, but didn't see much need to. My eye relief is fine, and unless there is some advantage to be gained by changing it around.....?
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I generally try and get the rings closer to the ends of the scope, not the center. Mostly for the added strength and less stress on the scope.
 
Like everyone says, they are both good bullets. Someone mentioned that the Barnes bullet is similar to a 160 gr. lead core in that the lighter metal in the Barnes makes for a longer bullet having greater sectional density= better penetration. The downside of the longer bullet is in a shorter necked case the bullet can encroach on powder space.
 
crazy_davey said:
I generally try and get the rings closer to the ends of the scope, not the center. Mostly for the added strength and less stress on the scope.
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Something to consider I guess, never really looked at it that way before. I wouldn't have thought there would be a significant difference in strength, but I guess there could be. I have had a problem in the past with eye relief on a scope, and because the rings were set more towards the ends couldn't move it enough to accomodate me, so ended up flipping the weavers to get precisely what I have on this rifle...and so I guess it looks 'right' to me. As far as stress on the scope the 7mm.08 is not going to exactly buck like a magnum though.

As it is only boresighted and not shot in yet, now would be the time to change it....anybody else want to address this one, I really don't have a strong opinion about it one way or the other, just like to hear what others have to say on the matter. Or more simply put, does this seem 'wrong' and need changing?

And TMGuns, I don't mind getting questioned too much, I learn a lot more when people make me think....that's why I like posting questions on here, I learn a lot of stuff I didn't know before...even though I know you're just yanking a bit!:)
 
You are a good sport. I always mount scopes to allow maximum eye relief and maximum clearance of the loading port. But thats just me.
 
I don't want lead in my families food so it's Barnes TSX for me.

Besides which after hand loading some for my 6.5x55 Swede I was impressed with the performance at the range.

I look forward to trying them out in the field this season.
 
grijim said:
I have been a Nosler fan for years. Work very well for me. Very nice rifle.

Grijim.
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Thanks, I like it....:)

I've used Noslers almost exclusively for hunting, but like the idea of lead free shooting too....if the performance is similar, I'd like to try the TSX...just didn't want to leave a 'wounded walker' out there, and wish I'd chosen a different bullet.....

TMG....I'm sure I'm gonna get a few friendly laughs out of you!
 
Someone mentioned that the Barnes bullet is similar to a 160 gr. lead core in that the lighter metal in the Barnes makes for a longer bullet having greater sectional density= better penetration.
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All bullets of the same caliber and weight share the same sectional density,regardless of the bullet length.
 
stubblejumper said:
All bullets of the same caliber and weight share the same sectional density,regardless of the bullet length.
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Thank you. I've seen a few posts where people don't understand sectional density. All it is is a relationship between weight and area. Pretty obvious if you look at the name.
 
As another option, Hornady has released their GMX bullet. It is similar to the Barnes TTSX. I know in my own experiences, some of my rifles will not shoot Barnes well. Those ones I usually try the Nosler Accubond, which I find to be a very good bullet as well.
 
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