Lamenting lack of gunsmith access with Sig P series...

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If I was in the US, my Sigs would be on their way to Grayguns Inc for some trigger TLC and customization care of Mr Bruce Gray. Bruce is the undisputed heavyweight champ of Sig customization. That said, we all know the pain associated with moving any guns back and forth across the border and I doubt that this would be any exception.

Is anyone aware of a gunsmith offering similar services on classic P series guns here in Canada? I tried Corlane's today and talked to Greg. He stated that the Canadian importer for Sig had a guy, but could not remember the reference name.


Any help would be hot.
 
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I sure wish I could deal with the folks at grayguns; please keep us posted if you decide to get some work done. I'll sure look into it!

Have you checked Armco? I know he does some magic on the 1911 platform, don't know if he touches SIGs..?
 
What? Sigs need 'smithing? Say it ain't so... :( :p

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NAA.
 
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They can be shot bone stock out of the box quite nicely. But some custom tuning (particularly on the trigger) can also truly transform them.

####. Now I want GGI to go over my new Sig even more so...

NAA said:
What? Sigs need 'smithing? Say it ain't so... :( :p

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NAA.
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I would look at getting one of the CW weapons SIG armourers course on DVD and DIY with a new, lighter mainspring and maybe polish/smooth up the internal parts. I did a tune up on my 1991 226 and it made a world of difference. Maybe the SIG forum has a few useful tips for such an adventure.
 
SLANTO said:
I would look at getting one of the CW weapons SIG armourers course on DVD and DIY with a new, lighter mainspring and maybe polish/smooth up the internal parts. I did a tune up on my 1991 226 and it made a world of difference. Maybe the SIG forum has a few useful tips for such an adventure.
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Sigforum does. Flork and Bruce being the best sources. But right along side the DIY advice comes some stern warnings.


Bottom line, if I pay to have it done by a licensed gunsmith, the smith takes on the financial responsibility for repairing a disastrous job. (Not talking about defensive use liability. I'm talking about what happens when a trigger job goes wrong).

Not to mention, an experienced one should know which parts like MIM hammer or sear should be beneficially replaced, and which changes just offer diminishing returns.

19lb mainspring swap I can do myself as it is skill-less and will reduce DA pull. But unfortunately it does SFA to take out the grittiness and creep common to DA mode on SRTs.
 
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I would find it interesting to get the trigger job where they change the leverage and retain the standard mainspring with the 17-20% decrease in trigger weight. Maybe you could get one of the kits from Gray and replace the firing pin block? They were mentioning that dry firing with a slight(1-2lb) resistance on the hammer may help in allowing the standard parts work in to each other on their friction points.
 
SLANTO said:
I would find it interesting to get the trigger job where they change the leverage and retain the standard mainspring with the 17-20% decrease in trigger weight. Maybe you could get one of the kits from Gray and replace the firing pin block? They were mentioning that dry firing with a slight(1-2lb) resistance on the hammer may help in allowing the standard parts work in to each other on their friction points.
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I got bored and went against my instincts to polish the trigger bar and bearing surfaces anyway Slanto.

Polish only, mind you. No stoning so no risk of angular changes on trigger/sear hooks. I figured that worst possible case I'd be ordering replacement parts. Turns out that conducting a decent polishing job really is dumb easy.



Already the result is much improved. Called GGI. The DIY kits should be back in stock in 6 weeks. At $44 USD it's to inexpensive not to try.
 
Already the result is much improved. Called GGI. The DIY kits should be back in stock in 6 weeks. At $44 USD it's to inexpensive not to try.[/QUOTE]

Did they say if they would ship it to you?
 
Sorry for slow inline reply back.

GGI will not directly ship to Canada as they are uncertain of the Department of State status on the parts kits. Though underneath the $100 general limit, they want clarification on this for very common sense reasons. Maybe the issue is that they are not on some approved export list. I'm not an importer/exporter and try not to become too involved with services I don't provide myself. That's someone else's game.

How aggressively GGI will pursue the issue might depend on interest up North here. They were quite surprised to hear, for instance, that Canadian importation is not the issue, but that US export is the real barrier.

I will order through Texas where I have relatives with personal contacts with FFL dealers are set up for export.
 
Order a couple extra kits and sell them, I`ll take one.


sprint said:
Sorry for slow inline reply back.

GGI will not directly ship to Canada as they are uncertain of the Department of State status on the parts kits. Though underneath the $100 general limit, they want clarification on this for very common sense reasons. Maybe the issue is that they are not on some approved export list. I'm not an importer/exporter and try not to become too involved with services I don't provide myself. That's someone else's game.

How aggressively GGI will pursue the issue might depend on interest up North here. They were quite surprised to hear, for instance, that Canadian importation is not the issue, but that US export is the real barrier.

I will order through Texas where I have relatives with personal contacts with FFL dealers are set up for export.
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OZZ said:
Order a couple extra kits and sell them, I`ll take one.
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Not in that business. I get 4 kits, I'll be keeping 4 kits.


Things will go one of two ways:
  • If an end-user declaration is required, reselling would be a violation I can't afford to make. These are just for personal use; or,
  • for all I know there will be no issue for everyone to order direct once GGI gets export status clarification anyway.

Lots of good places to get legal importation work done if its the first case and no legal risks.

Else, less cost if its the second case and then everyone can buy in.
 
These arent national secrets :) GGI never wanted to sell before but if that changes then I will buy if not too bad.

sprint said:
Not in that business. I get 4 kits, I'll be keeping 4 kits.


Things will go one of two ways:
  • If an end-user declaration is required, reselling would be a violation I can't afford to make. These are just for personal use; or,
  • for all I know there will be no issue for everyone to order direct once GGI gets export status clarification anyway.

Lots of good places to get legal importation work done if its the first case and no legal risks.

Else, less cost if its the second case and then everyone can buy in.
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To be clear, GGI isn't the issue.


US DOS and their parts export regulations are.

Like the laws or don't like the laws. GGI will adhere to those regulations because they are based there. I do work there and will adhere to them as well. Anyone who finds themselves physically crossing into the US at any time would also be well advised to have observed their laws.

Its just good, common sense.
 
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