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Trigun

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After many years owned several good guns, I come across another itching period. I sold several pistols over last three months including my CZ 75B and Beretta M9. these are some of the best gun that you can trust your score or life daily but I also want try something new.
I am not looking for which brand or which gun to buy next, I want to ask you expert that own CZ and 1911, which design you feel most interesting and more fun to work with?

Thanks in advance

Trigun
 
Depends on what you are after.
If you wanna compete in Production - Shadow is your answer, you tweak it a bit and work on improving your SHOOTING after :D
If you are into customization and more of a esthetics - 1911 allows lots done to it even at home with no smith experience. Double stack would be excellent for Standard/Limited division and up. It can be made eye pleasing too :D
 
I've got one of each and I love both dearly for different reasons. The CZ for being a cheap center fire to shoot and being the gun that I'm basing my Production IPSC performance on. The 1911 for the history and big gun feel when shooting it. Also it's a highly rewarding gun to tinker with and there's reams of books and online data on doing so.

Best of both worlds? A 1911 in 9mm? I'll be moving up to the Chilliwack area soon and something like an STI Ranger II in 9 would be a nice IDPA option and a super sweet shooting gun in it's own right.

In your case you have a Shadow and I'm assuming you'll keep it. If you think of selling it for any reason then you need to check into an intervention clinic before it's too late. Just add a 1911 in the "CORRECT" caliber to your collection. You'll see that they are different enough that it isn't a case of this or that but rather of BOTH!
 
I got two of each :D 2x CZs in 9mm where one is Production and IDPA competition gun and the other is a backup and... .22lr conversion kit for cheap practice and Speed Steel fun.
2x 1911s - .45acp and .40s&w for Single Stack and Limited10 matches ;) .40s&w is a good ccw gun too.
Not into Open guns... yet :D
 
BCRider said:
I've got one of each and I love both dearly for different reasons. The CZ for being a cheap center fire to shoot and being the gun that I'm basing my Production IPSC performance on. The 1911 for the history and big gun feel when shooting it. Also it's a highly rewarding gun to tinker with and there's reams of books and online data on doing so.

Best of both worlds? A 1911 in 9mm? I'll be moving up to the Chilliwack area soon and something like an STI Ranger II in 9 would be a nice IDPA option and a super sweet shooting gun in it's own right.

In your case you have a Shadow and I'm assuming you'll keep it. If you think of selling it for any reason then you need to check into an intervention clinic before it's too late. Just add a 1911 in the "CORRECT" caliber to your collection. You'll see that they are different enough that it isn't a case of this or that but rather of BOTH!
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Ah No Bruce, I haven't got my Shadow yet but I did sold my 75B, I went into Blueline twice but come out empty because my brain still frozen. May be I should give 1911 a shot to see how much I can learn out of the design. I can always get a 75 SA next.

Trigun
 
I have a couple of CZ75's and 1911's. The CZ is definitely my favorite double action 9mm (and yes, I carry a S&W daily). But, if the choice was mine as to which I would use to protect myself - it would be the 1911. The 1911 is more fun to customize, but I feel the CZ75 is perfection the way it comes.
 
Now, I'm not an expert at all, but here is my humble opinion.

I owned a Shadow as my first handgun. Really, really great gun as far as double/single action 9mm goes. It was a blast to shoot compared to some other guns I tried... (polymer ones mostly...) Also really accurate out of the box. But I wasn't really satisfied with the availability of parts in country.

And then I bought a 1911. Wow. An older design but really really fun. More expensive to shoot but the trigger is so light and smooth, even when compared to the Shadow's which was already great. I haven't made a complete disassembly yet but it really looks easy to work with. Loads of parts everywhere to tweak/repair.

I have to be honest though and when I get the money, I'll buy another CZ75 in 9mm.
 
JDube said:
Now, I'm not an expert at all, but here is my humble opinion.

I owned a Shadow as my first handgun. Really, really great gun as far as double/single action 9mm goes. It was a blast to shoot compared to some other guns I tried... (polymer ones mostly...) Also really accurate out of the box. But I wasn't really satisfied with the availability of parts in country.

And then I bought a 1911. Wow. An older design but really really fun. More expensive to shoot but the trigger is so light and smooth, even when compared to the Shadow's which was already great. I haven't made a complete disassembly yet but it really looks easy to work with. Loads of parts everywhere to tweak/repair.

I have to be honest though and when I get the money, I'll buy another CZ75 in 9mm.
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x2 exactly what he said.
 
I have several CZ's and a four 1911's. They are both great platforms. I prefer the 85 Combat for IDPA. the Shadow for IPSC and my 1911's do service in IDPA both in ESP with the Trojan 9MM and CDP with my Dlask prepared Norinco.

If I was only going to buy one gun in would be the CZ 85 combat as it works both in IDPA and IPSC, is less expensive to shoot although I reload so my costs are about the same for both 9MM and .45acp. If you don't reload then the 9MM is way less expensive to shoot. I also have the .22LR kit attached to my 85 Combat and it is a great plinker, very accurate and just fun to shoot.

You really can't go wrong buying both. Enjoy the decision process.

Take Care

Bob
 
From a very technical standpoint

My only complaint with the 1911 is the locking lugs and link; I don't know why they are still being used, but it makes for installing aftermarket barrels difficult (for a proper fit; i.e. each barrel needs to be properly fitted in a 1911.)

The CZ is awesome in every way except for the fact that the trigger pin is staked in place and must be replaced if removed. There is also a Screw inside the magwell that retains a spring and a portion of the frame is "staked" in order to keep the screw from backing out. This to me is very 19th century.

For example, look at any modern Ruger pistol (or the 1911, another plus for it) and nothing is staked in place, everything has a clip or is held in place by another part (I always find Rugers to be ingenious in how they are assembled and how pins are retained).

With all that said, they are both very nice guns.
Difficult to choose. The CZ is probably the best deal if you have a limited budget; A CZ with aftermarket grips and grip screws is pretty ###y on the cheap.

However a nice (i.e. not cheap) 1911 is probably one of the most beautiful looking pieces one can own, but, again comes with $$$.

They are both going to shoot ;)

Today though, If I had to buy, I'd be in the mood for a 'Stainless CZ' if any were available.
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Thanks for all the great reply, I soon understand I might have miss something during passed eight years of owning handguns. For sure I will give it a shot and see how much I can learn out of the 1911 platform.

Trigun
 
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