Toomanyguns you may have noticed that your comments draw a lot of heat/flames/fire. I'm going to assume that what you say is based on real shooting that you have actually done.
The brief manner in which you have been phrasing your claims ends up being terribly provocative, or really pegging peoples' BS meters, including people who are accomplished competitive shooters and have an intricate grasp of what sorts of shooting accomplishments are everyday good marksmanship, what is possible when everything goes right, and what is starting to be difficult to believe.
You obviously have some good kit. As you say, with good gear it is pretty impressive how easily some pretty remarkable things can be done.
If you want to deliver more light than heat, you might consider fleshing out your posts a little bit. For example, when you say 1/4 minute groups at 800 yards all day, how many shots are in these groups? Do you mean that *every* group that you fire all day long is 1/4 MOA or better? Or that the *average* size of all the groups that you fire is 1/4 MOA? Or that *many* of the groups that you fire all day long are under 1/4 MOA? Or that *enough to be satisfying* are less than 1/4? etc...
If you don't make it a bit clearer as to what you are claiming (and by implication what you are not claiming), confusion and doubt arise; see the last 75+ posts. When a competitive F-Class shooter talks about it being very difficult to put all shots into a 1-MOA bullseye and not even half his shots into a half-MOA V-bull at 1000 yards, even in fairly "easy" wind conditions, he is talking about ten out of ten shots, or fifteen out of fifteen shots. To an experienced F-Class shooter, one who has the gear and the skill to compete at and possibly even to win national and international matches, getting a half-minute group (of 10 to 15 shots) at 800-1000yards is an exceptionally fine accomplishment that very few are able to manage. In fact I don't know if there is even a single F-Class shooter in the whole world who can do it routinely. Perhaps with this background info it can be seen why claims of "routine 1/4 MOA groups at 800y" might sound like they are claims at being better than any world champion shooter out there. If what you really meant was that in the course of a day's shooting you are able to shoot numerous 1/4-MOA 3-shot groups at 800y, and if you said that, perhaps it would cause much less of a stir.
