A new 22lr pistol?

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Hi need your opinion, am thorn between two handguns, 22lr, i hesitate between a ruger mark 111 competition and a browning buckmark target urx.
I know ruger is a lot of pain, to disassembled, and a big lot of pain to reassembled, my wife got one!!!! But is a great shooter. I never use buckmark. Give me your's positive, and negative.
Thanks
Ps my wife have not the competition, but the target.
 
As soon as the Mrs completes her restricted course,we are going to buy her a 22lr.pistol.I am quite sure that it will be a Ruger MarkIII.They are just too reliable,and will cycle almost any ammunition,which is great because she can use up the leftover 22lr ammunition that my fussy Kimber Rimfire Super doesn't like.:D
 
I do go for the Ruger, the first or second time take down may casue some trouble but once you get your hand on, that become easy and aftermarket parts can keep your gun running for ever.

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The ergonomics are different and I think that this is a much more important thing to consider than how difficult one or the oher is to strip and assemble. The ruger has a steeper grip angle which is good for rapid fire recovery and free hand shooting. The buckmark has a much better (lighter, crisper, shorter pull) trigger than the ruger. Both are well made. The grip angle of the buckmark is very close if not the same as a 1911. That may or may not be desirable. Trying each one would help you make am infromed decision. You will have more votes for the ruger because it is the most popular .22 pistol of all time.
 
Consider the ruger 22/45 with 1911 like grip angle.

For stripping the ruger, have a small wooden dowel and purchase a rubber mallet. You'll need to really hit it hard to disassemble it.
 
Another vote for the ruger from me. I've shot my friend's buckmark a fair amount and they are a pretty good shooter, accurate and fun But there are some issues with his. The takedown is still fairly complex for the buckmark ....you need dental picks (becuase everyone has those lying around the house :rolleyes: lol) for one part of the dissassembly, and on top of that, becuase browning packaged an old manual with my friend's he ended up bending the guide rod.

Another issue is my firend's buckmark is very particular about ammo. The MK IIIs seem to eat anything you feed them. The Buckmark has a lot of stovepipes and usually won't lock back after the last shot. I guess its possible that my friend's buckmark is a lemon, but from his experience with it and my experience shooting it at the range I'm not going to drop the money on one of em.

The Rugers might be a pain to take down, but they're a really fun and accurate gun. And if you prefer the 45 grip angle you can get the 22/45 model:D
 
Keep in mind that while the Rugers are a pain to re-assemble the owners all say that you soon get the hang of it and develop little tricks to make it work. Or you come up with simple tools to make things easier.
 
I can recommend the Ruger MKIII as well. Takes a few thousand rounds to break it in, and (for mine, anyway) keeping the bolt (except for the face) wet with oil cuts down the "stovepipes" dramatically. It eats everything in the way of ammunition, except Fiocci standard velocity, which fails to cycle the action often enough to be a hassle. After two runs at disassembly-reassembly, I quit doing that altogether. Now I just remove the grips, splash some solvent around the innards, and blast out the crud with compressed air. I've replaced the factory grips with a Hogue thumbrest wraparound grip, an improvement that I'd recommend to anyone with a MKII or MKII Ruger.
 
I'll toss in my vote for the underdog here, my buckmark 7.25 URX is great. Had some initial teething when new, but works like a charm now. Runs like a top as long as you keep the bolt oiled.
Basic cleaning is easy, just use a toothbrush to clean the boltface and breech, does not have to be taken apart for cleaning until it gets REALLY dirty.
Not a whole lot of aftermarket available, but there is not really anything that needs to be changed to make it a great pistol:cool:
 
I have met 2 guys now who were having problems with their buckmarks. The cause of the cycling issues were due to the fact that they both needed to be cleaned! Try and make the decision between the 2 pistols based on how they fit YOU and how well YOU shoot them.
 
A guy at our monthly matches was having a terrible time with his Buckmark. But the other fellow's ran like a fine tuned swiss watch. I have no idea what the issue was with the one's gun.

The local Rent-A-Gun range has three Rugers of various ages. But all of them are quite old. These things have shot many 10's of thousands of rounds in their lives. Very likely far more than any one private owner would ever shoot in a lifetime. They seldom need or get cleaning but they keep on ticking like the Energizer bunny and when they do require attention apparently it's because the new shooter tried to jam the magazine in backwards and wedged it in place. To my eyes the Rugers have all the ### appeal of a lowly butter knife but there's no arguing at all with their reliability. If there's an issue with any of them it's that the plastic frame of the 22-45 produces a top heavy feeling gun. If there was a metal framed version that had the same grip angle it would be a fantastic pistol.
 
how about neither- go wrap your hands a round a beretta neos- in 4 1/2 inch- i tried the buckmark, the ruger, and a couple of others you didn't mention in various configurations and ended up with the beretta in stainless- it's become my goto handgun in 22- mind you , it's not for everyone if you care about looks- it FEELS like one of the old lugers- and talk about easy cleaning/stripping
 
you can't really go wrong with either of em, get the buckmark so you and your wife can swap guns once in a while. I chose the buckmark because it was more comfortable to hold.
 
t-star said:
how about neither- go wrap your hands a round a beretta neos- in 4 1/2 inch- i tried the buckmark, the ruger, and a couple of others you didn't mention in various configurations and ended up with the beretta in stainless- it's become my goto handgun in 22- mind you , it's not for everyone if you care about looks- it FEELS like one of the old lugers- and talk about easy cleaning/stripping
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When I was looking for a .22 pistol, they had the usual suspects at the store - the Ruger and the Buckmark. However, they had a Neos as well. After debating my options for a while, I decided that the ambidextrous safety the Neos had was worth further consideration (since I'm left handed), and I took a chance with the Neos. Since then, that little pistol has really grown on me. Here's hoping the carbine kits for these see the light of day.
 
Get the one that feels best in your hand.

Ruger disassembly becomes easier, so don't let that influence you too much.
 
fnrob said:
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When I was looking for a .22 pistol, they had the usual suspects at the store - the Ruger and the Buckmark. However, they had a Neos as well. After debating my options for a while, I decided that the ambidextrous safety the Neos had was worth further consideration (since I'm left handed), and I took a chance with the Neos. Since then, that little pistol has really grown on me. Here's hoping the carbine kits for these see the light of day.
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you do realise, that even with kit installed, it'll still be a restricted as far as the cfc is concerned- same deal goes for the springfield armory dominator, even though it is a single shot 308 rifle
 
t-star said:
you do realise, that even with kit installed, it'll still be a restricted as far as the cfc is concerned- same deal goes for the springfield armory dominator, even though it is a single shot 308 rifle
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Oh, yes, I do realise that she'd still be restricted. I just think that it looks like it would be fun to shoot with a stock.
 
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