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I was shooting out side in the open and was still getting Tavor eye! It's a good burn though, like a spicy chili.
Just ordered my Tavor today the waiting game begins
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Thanks, very helpful advice.
peter2772000
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Uhhhh, ok. It's been what now, 3 weeks since my pre-order? Getting antsy, waking up in cold sweats every night. Where's my Tavor? I want my Tavor. I need my Tavor.
So where is it again?
So where is it again?
Farmer Harv
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Wrong. Mine was non-res, so at best Tavor=FS2000.
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Yeah that works, and would get better with practice, but it's still inconvenient compared to having the handle on the right side. I kinda like handling AK's because of this.
The SL8 was nice in this regard...either/or without any mods or changes at all.
Put a bunch of rounds through mine yesterday. No wind so I got the ammonia. The good news is it cleared up my sinuses.
Which join space does it come up from? I never noticed it the first time I shot a Tavor a couple years ago, but then again there was more wind. The mag changes. I can't remember who posted to use your right thumb, but a big thanks
. Mag changes were awkward for me before. Good enough but not really smooth. Using my right thumb to press the mag release and my left hand for the new mag sure made it feel natural. Tactical reloads were easy and just letting the mag drop made for fairly decent changes. Not sure why I never though of that before. I blame the CZ858 for that Also I cleaned and "seasoned" mine with G96 after buying it. No tavor kiss. Ran flawlessly except for not liking to pick up the first round when the 10 rounders are full (This also seemed to vary on the ammunition used and the mag). Put 9 in and no problem.
Farmer Harv
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Put a bunch of rounds through mine yesterday. No wind so I got the ammonia. The good news is it cleared up my sinuses.
I believe most of the gas is expelled from a little port at the back of the gas tube (could be why there are ventilation holes on each side), and also some from the back of the plastic block that holds the piston tube (and BUIS on those models so equipped). There might be a bit come out of the bolt/chamber area, but I'm pretty sure the "Tavor mark" is from the piston tube gap at the top, and most of the ammonia smell is from the gas port.
Pic showing where the little gas port and the gap at the rear of the piston tube is:
I never did get around to doing any decent testing with it.
It didn't seem to care between the Ruag 63gr or the PMC 55gr, but Seller & Belliot 55gr delivered the best groups if I remember correctly. Also tried some PMC 62gr M855 and Remington 55gr, but can't remember if they were much different than my baseline PMC 55gr. Hmmm...pretty much absolutely no useful information there at all. 
I never did get around to doing any decent testing with it.
Thanks.
I also shot the Ruag 63gr and PMC 55. I haven't found anything yet that actually shoots the Ruag 63 worth a damn. Even my Swiss Arms rifle doesn't shoot it well. The PMC showed some promise. I was shooting off hand and at close range. I'll have to put the scope on and bench it for a real ammo test.
That is exactly where the gas comes from Farmer Harv, the piston tube gap ... a little tape and no gas or ammonia smell, for me at least.
It may have been me who posted the heel of the thumb mag changes, I don't recall, but it was something I discovered fairly early on with the rifle. It's nice to have something we can agree on for a change Epoxy ...
And if it was me who posted the info, well, you're welcome.
As to the 10 round mags not functioning with 10 rounds, that is a mag/spring issue. Those mags are made with tight tolerances to stay within the law. Try loading the mag with the bolt locked open then releasing the bolt when you are ready to shoot. I think you'll find 10 rounds is acheivable.
Someday I'll reload some 69 and 77 grain bullets to see how they shoot. I seem to be getting 2 moa at 100 with PMC and other factory 55gr stuff.
It may have been me who posted the heel of the thumb mag changes, I don't recall, but it was something I discovered fairly early on with the rifle. It's nice to have something we can agree on for a change Epoxy ...
And if it was me who posted the info, well, you're welcome.
As to the 10 round mags not functioning with 10 rounds, that is a mag/spring issue. Those mags are made with tight tolerances to stay within the law. Try loading the mag with the bolt locked open then releasing the bolt when you are ready to shoot. I think you'll find 10 rounds is acheivable.
Someday I'll reload some 69 and 77 grain bullets to see how they shoot. I seem to be getting 2 moa at 100 with PMC and other factory 55gr stuff.
That is exactly where the gas comes from Farmer Harv, the piston tube gap ... a little tape and no gas or ammonia smell, for me at least.
It may have been me who posted the heel of the thumb mag changes, I don't recall, but it was something I discovered fairly early on with the rifle. It's nice to have something we can agree on for a change Epoxy ...
And if it was me who posted the info, well, you're welcome.
Someday I'll reload some 69 and 77 grain bullets to see how they shoot. I seem to be getting 2 moa at 100 with PMC and other factory 55gr stuff.
Thanks Farmer Harv, and Gothmog. I'll try the tape. No Tavor Kiss but the ammonia was getting me.
I only had the rifle for a little while before reading about the mag changes. So it was good timing. When I previously tried the Tavor a few years ago, the mag changes were ok, but I hadn't really worked out how to do it faster. I was just grateful for a chance to shoot it. It was funny because the mag change didn't see immediately obvious to me. I was thinking maybe AK style for faster (IE use the new mag to activate the release then load). After the first time trying the right thumb, it sure hit home how natural and fast it was. Great tip. Thanks again.
I have some Berger 62 grain, and I think some 64 grain that I'll be trying out. I plan on getting some 69 SMK and 77 grain in the future.
Please do and post your results. Here are my results with remington brass, Federal Small Rifle Match Primers, seated just shy of mag length. I used a Nightforce 5.5-22X56 on a calm day. The target was at 114yards, but to represent what the groups size would be at a standard 100 yards I have multiplied the group sizes by 100/114 (0.877...):
69gr SMK with fireformed & neck sized only brass - Best 5 shot group was 1.30" at 100 yards with 23.50gr H335 (tried 22.00, 22.50, 23.00, 23.50, and 24.00 grains of H335 with the larger groups from 2.5-4")
77gr SMK with new brass - Best 5 shot group was 1.67" at 100 yards with 21.00gr H335 (tried 21.00, 21.50, 22.00, 22.50, 23.00 grains of H335 with the larger groups from roughly 2-3")
I have also heard from someone else that had poor luck with 77gr bullets and better luck with 69 and 55 grainers
Under the handguard at the very front, the barrel seems to rest in a band/clamp or something... can the tension on the barrel be adjusted? If it can be adjusted it would probably make a noticeable difference in accuracy.
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I'm not a technical guy Lloyd, but I'll see what I can find out about the barrel band.
Your reloads sound like you are on the right track.
A 5 round group at 100 yards of 1.3" sounds pretty good to me. We aren't discussing a bench rest target rifle, here so micro groups aren't really what I'd expect. To me, that is quite a respectable result ...
Your reloads sound like you are on the right track.
A 5 round group at 100 yards of 1.3" sounds pretty good to me. We aren't discussing a bench rest target rifle, here so micro groups aren't really what I'd expect. To me, that is quite a respectable result ...
