SKS Shooters "Clean up your Act"

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I don't need to preach to the converted or those 7.62 X 39 shooters who actually pick up their steel cases at the Range...but, everybody needs to pitch in to reduce issues related to all the cases left on the ground. I'm not looking to start a "but the rimfire guys are worse" discussion...just to focus on the problem of 7.62 X 39 case litter.
Every spring, there is some discussion at the Range about the mess of steel cases left on the ground and shooting pads ---- and one of the solutions always offered is to "ban" the SKS ---yada yada. The bottom line here, is that the problem is real and unless it is adressed, something will eventually gain traction ---and it may be unpopular.
Did you know that you can buy a nail magnet at Princess Auto for $15.00 that will grab those little buggers without you even having to bend over? Buy one, use it ...and the "ban the SKS" talk may never come up again...unless someone is seen "bump firing".
 
JEC said:
I don't need to preach to the converted or those 7.62 X 39 shooters who actually pick up their steel cases at the Range...but, everybody needs to pitch in to reduce issues related to all the cases left on the ground. I'm not looking to start a "but the rimfire guys are worse" discussion...just to focus on the problem of 7.62 X 39 case litter.
Every spring, there is some discussion at the Range about the mess of steel cases left on the ground and shooting pads ---- and one of the solutions always offered is to "ban" the SKS ---yada yada. The bottom line here, is that the problem is real and unless it is adressed, something will eventually gain traction ---and it may be unpopular.
Did you know that you can buy a nail magnet at Princess Auto for $15.00 that will grab those little buggers without you even having to bend over? Buy one, use it ...and the "ban the SKS" talk may never come up again...unless someone is seen "bump firing".
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Just because steel cases ain't worth ####, or worth reloading you don't have to make a big deal of it.

If someone pays their membership I don't see what the issue is. The range owners dont ##### when I leave a loot full of brass casing's behind. Did i mention that sometimes I leave more than 15$ worth of brass casings behind.

Maybe with the 200+ $ I pay for a membership + the brass casings I leave behind are enough for the range owner to buy a nail magnet.

Or he or she could leave a broom near by and I would be more than happy to sweep it aside.


that being said people clean up after yourself's don't be leaving KFC boxes around!
 
nikoinwinnipeg said:
Maybe with the 200+ $ I pay for a membership + the brass casings I leave behind are enough for the range owner to buy a nail magnet.
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+1

Every year range dues go up and up and up while the ranges, in general, become more and more unkept and dilapidated. One range near Ottawa, just outside Kanata that shall remain nameless but I'm sure everyone around Ottawa will know which I mean is a prime example. The range dues there are not astronomical - more than Connaught. If you happen to shoot rifle AND pistol ANd skeet, you'd better be rich. Nevertheless the backstops are in awful shape, the berms are over grown and the facilities are in constant decline. The owner has a nice house though and lots of toys - do the math.

SKS's are not popular there. More than once I was asked to "slow my rate of fire" before I quit and joined a different range. And no, I was not bump firing. 5 rounds in under 1 minute is too fast for the benchrest elitists.

On the other hand, at cooperative ranges like EOHC in Ottawa, I would argue it is your DUTY to sweep up the brass from time to time. If you don't, nobody else will. On the other hand, after 5 pr 7 years steel casings rust into nothing while berdan brass is there almost forever.
 
For outdoor ranges I consider it free gravel, same goes for .22 brass, If it wasent for this stuff at my local range we'd be walking around in the mud.:D
 
I clean up the mess I make. I have an old speaker magnet on the end of a stick to grab up my empties. Less effort then picking up brass.
 
I agree, nobody would ##### if it was 338 brass laying around. Ban SKS/CZ and lose half the members - now there would be a great business decision!
 
Members of our club that don't pick up thier brass are asked nicely to do so, and I would have no problem with asking someone to leave (permanently, if necessary) if they repeatedly refused to pick up thier casings.:)
 
You'd be empty and broke pretty quick.


Gatehouse said:
Members of our club that don't pick up thier brass are asked nicely to do so, and I would have no problem with asking someone to leave (permanently, if necessary) if they repeatedly refused to pick up thier casings.:)
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My range does have a very nice magnet on wheels that picks up steel cases just great. Now if only I could have a key so I could access it after each time I shoot. I'm not on the executive but I'm one of the small group of members that volunteers my time very often...
 
Hook said:
My range does have a very nice magnet on wheels that picks up steel cases just great. Now if only I could have a key so I could access it after each time I shoot. I'm not on the executive but I'm one of the small group of members that volunteers my time very often...
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You don't have keys? That's not right. Ask Greg for some.
 
Stevo said:
Most of our members don't. It's the 5% that do who keep the place going.

I don't call the majority "members". I call them "users".
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Actually, that's 100% true. I should rephrase :

Not all clubs are comprised of members that can't read the signs that say PICK UP YOUR BRASS!! :p
 
I rarely clean my brass up right after I shoot, with the exception of shot shells.

Why? Because I'm one of the guys who cleans up all the other users #### throughout the year and mine gets picked up then.
 
Stevo said:
I rarely clean my brass up right after I shoot, with the exception of shot shells.

Why? Because I'm one of the guys who cleans up all the other users s**t throughout the year and mine gets picked up then.
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I guess it is up to the individual range to set the policies. We want you to pick/sweep/rake up your own casings before you go home. The only real exception would be shooting in the winter, as the brass ends up melting into the snow.
 
Gatehouse said:
I guess it is up to the individual range to set the policies. We want you to pick/sweep/rake up your own casings before you go home. The only real exception would be shooting in the winter, as the brass ends up melting into the snow.
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That's our policy too. Unfortunately, no one follows it.

With an unsupervised facility it's next to impossible to catch anyone at it, unless one of the active volunteers happens to be there at the same time.

And like Hook said, we have a wheeled magnet for steel. It doesn't take much longer for me to pick up all the steel rather than just my own.
 
It was my understanding that the CFO in Ontario has said that not picking up the brass is a safety hazard and has made it part of their inspection. This is just what I recall hearing. Anyways I always pickup my brass plus a bit extra.
 
Yeah now that most of the snow is gone she is a bit of a mess out there Stevo. I did pick up a bunch of shot up plastic bottles and cans. Gonna need a rake probably to clean up the shotshells over by the high range.

At least no consumer electronics got blown to crap out there this year.
 
Hook said:
Yeah now that most of the snow is gone she is a bit of a mess out there Stevo. I did pick up a bunch of shot up plastic bottles and cans. Gonna need a rake probably to clean up the shotshells over by the high range.

At least no consumer electronics got blown to crap out there this year.
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That was a nice surprise wasn't it?

The shotshells on the high range were those Mennonite dudes with the clay thrower. Cleaning up is womens work.
 
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