.375 h & h

Thanks guys, rearing to go. I wanted to add, my 110lb wife has shot my RSM with 270gr Federal factory loads, so if that's not an endorsement for "won't bite ya", don't know what is. :) Previously to the .375, the largest thing she'd fired was a 20 gauge pump too. Made her go "Whoaaa!" but she was smiling, you'll be fine.
 
I can shoot a 300 WM all day but I can't handle the 375 H&H in a typical bolt action. The recoil is so sharp and the pain on the shoulder very noticeable.

I believe that most shooters have a threshold and this threshold is different for different shooters. I have a TC Pro Hunter and just bought a 375 H&H barrel for it and hope that the recoil reduction feature of this rifle will help. I noticed a significant difference in the recoil of the TC compared to a bolt action for the 300 WM.

I'm a big fan of the 375 H&H for moose and larger game and looking forward to finding a rifle that will allow me to shoot it without feeling excessive pain.

Duke1
 
duke1 said:
I can shoot a 300 WM all day but I can't handle the 375 H&H in a typical bolt action. The recoil is so sharp and the pain on the shoulder very noticeable.


Duke1
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That is precisely the point I was trying to make, I can shoot a 300WM tirelessly at the range, but the 375 H+H gets a little unpleasant between 20-40 rounds. It certainly doesn't mean I'm going to sell or stop shooting my .375, but there is a noticeable difference between the two.

I suppose it's worth pointing out that I'm one of those guys that's built to soak up recoil like a sponge and I don't yield to the .375's "push" very well. I'm not overly sensitive to recoil, but anything in the .416 to .460 range will guarantee some fresh marks on my shoulder (unless they have a muzzle break).
 
If you like your 300 Mag. you'll have no trouble moving up to a 375. Anybody still getting a bruised shoulder with big guns needs a P.A.S.T. recoil pad for the bench. Shoot anything and no bruise.
 
I shoot a Model 70 Winchester in .375, 270 gr. and a Voere 7mm Rem mag 160gr, My shoulder likes the .375 much better. Mod 70 about 10lbs. Voere about 7lbs. Hope that helps. Good luck
 
Recoil aside, I've never felt that 375H&H was a very accurate round, in several different rifles that I've shot. For big boom n big holes, I favor 45-70 Gov.
 
I think if you were to check out synthetic stocks for it you could find one that would really help absorb recoil before it gets to your shoulder, along with a good recoil pad.
I have a Rem700KS mtn rifle in .338winmag that more than a few people who own 338's & 300's & 7mags have shot, and it is not ported, and these people were all amazed at how nice that gun is to shoot. When I bought it, I bought the lightest rifle of 8 or 9 laid out on the counter, and it surprised me in the recoil dept, really nice to shoot. It also has a .375 length action on it.
The type of stock construction and style can make a huge difference, I've experienced that on a number of wood stocked guns too.
 
My cousin has a Remington 700 synthetic stock and it only weighs about 8 lbs. scoped and loaded. It doesn't push or jab, it just plain kicks and it doesn't take long to become painful. He shoots a lot of different guns(.300 Win. Mag., .300 Weatherby, 7mm Mag etc.) and he says he can only shoot 6 or 8 rounds from a benchrest before his groups start to open up. Jack O'Connor always said a .375 should weigh a good 9 1/2 lbs. and I think he was right.
 
Dogleg said:
Oh, I don't know about that. My three seven fives seem to shoot about as good as my other hunting rifles.
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I've been keeping an open mind and would like to try one that shoots well, but I haven't seen one yet. Several years ago I fired what I remember to be a mod 70 that a friend was bragging about. Kicked like a mule, but not so precise.

Maybe it was bad ammo??:confused:
 
fiddler said:
I've been keeping an open mind and would like to try one that shoots well, but I haven't seen one yet. Several years ago I fired what I remember to be a mod 70 that a friend was bragging about. Kicked like a mule, but not so precise.

Maybe it was bad ammo??:confused:
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It could be the name on the side of the barrel:nest: .375 can be sensitive to bullets, mostly because they are throated for 300 grain roundnose. Some bullets take the jump better than others.
 
My 375 is magna ported and it still kicks...but if you are planning on hunting dangerous game in Africa, or bears - especially brown of grizz. then it is a good choice.

I have 338 as well (and magn ported) and I find the 338 gives me more felt recoil than the 375 H&H
 
fiddler said:
Recoil aside, I've never felt that 375H&H was a very accurate round, in several different rifles that I've shot. For big boom n big holes, I favor 45-70 Gov.
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That statement's out to lunch, my .375's shoot under an inch, 5 rounds at 100 yards, and my Ruger RSM does even better than that. .45-70 doesn't even scratch at the doorstep of that the .375 H&H can do... I'd suggest barring a lemon rifle (not likely as you said there were multiple rifles involved), is very likely shooter error. It's a very accurate round.
 
What's the most interesting thing about this thread is how different shooters perceive recoil differently. Seeing the recoil of the 375 described as sharper than a 300 WM likely has the masses scratching their collective heads, but for that particular fellow, that's how his rig recoils. Just goes to show you, there are few rules when it comes to individual shooters' perceptions of recoil.

I would have to say that the meanest rifle I own is a Browning 1885 in 45-70. That nasty little sucker smacks me far worse than my #1H 458 WM, RSM 416 Rigby or my Merkel 470. It's a hair light perhaps (I think around 8 lbs), and drives a 400 grain bullet fairly briskly (1950 FPS) but you's think the RSM's 400 gr bullet at 2400 or the 458 and 470 each slinging a 500gr chunk around 2100 would out recoil the puny 45-70. But I know that if I was going to burn through 15-20 rounds in an afternoon practicing snap shooting or running through mag after mag to practice cycling the bolt under fire, I'd rather be using my 416 than any rifle that recoiled like that Browning. I also find my 9.3x62 to be lively off the bench and it's not a cartridge with a reputation for nasty recoil.

But before I rebarrelled my 300WM it was obnoxious to shoot as well and it was a fairly standard sporter (M70 Super Grade). It smacked my shoulder much harder than any of the others, except that 45-70. Not so much now that ATRS made it weigh 13 lbs with a 29" barrel, but before it was a meanie. I was never so happy to burn a barrel out of a rifle!
 
A number of years back, as a result of an accident I had a badly torn rotator cuff. In hinde sight, I should've had it repaired but with most of my work responsibility at the time being behind a desk, I chose to gradually work my way through it.

After the shoulder was more or less 'better', the first larger caliber rifle I shot was my son in laws very nice custom 375 H&H based on a Sako action. I'm a right handed shooter and with the traditional stance, right elbow up, I took a shot off hand. F**king near killed me!! Over a period of time I found if instead I kept my right elbow down, no problem. By putting the elbow down it seems to put a bit more meat behind the recoil pad and adding some additional protection.

Using that form or stance when shooting some of the bigger and harder kicking stuff I have, such as my model 70 in 458 WM and 45-70 guide gun, no problem.
 
fiddler said:
Recoil aside, I've never felt that 375H&H was a very accurate round, in several different rifles that I've shot. For big boom n big holes, I favor 45-70 Gov.
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Obviously never shot very many of them, or else couldn't handle the recoil! :p:) All of the one's I own or have shot ( 2 Ruger No. 1's, 2 Browning A bolts, a Winchester model 70, a CZ 550 Magnum, a Ruger Mark 2 Magnum and a Remington 700 if you really want to know) would all group under an inch on demand. The 2 Ruger No. 1's will stay between 1/2" and 3/4" all day long. To put it bluntly, I would have to disagree with you!:D
 
Johnn, I achieve much better accuracy and much less felt recoil if I shoot with both elbows tucked tight to my body. This is for offhand shots.

Johnn Peterson said:
A number of years back, as a result of an accident I had a badly torn rotator cuff. In hinde sight, I should've had it repaired but with most of my work responsibility at the time being behind a desk, I chose to gradually work my way through it.

After the shoulder was more or less 'better', the first larger caliber rifle I shot was my son in laws very nice custom 375 H&H based on a Sako action. I'm a right handed shooter and with the traditional stance, right elbow up, I took a shot off hand. F**king near killed me!! Over a period of time I found if instead I kept my right elbow down, no problem. By putting the elbow down it seems to put a bit more meat behind the recoil pad and adding some additional protection.

Using that form or stance when shooting some of the bigger and harder kicking stuff I have, such as my model 70 in 458 WM and 45-70 guide gun, no problem.
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Toomanyguns said:
Johnn, I achieve much better accuracy and much less felt recoil if I shoot with both elbows tucked tight to my body. This is for offhand shots.
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With the 'right wing' in the condition it's in, that's the only way for me to 'fly'. Works well for the off hand accuracy as it does for you and helps contend with the heavier recoil as well.

I recently acquired a very nice Husqvarna in 358 Norma Magnum that has a respectable bark to it;). On an off hand shot with 250gr Norma factory ammo I 'forgot' to tuck the right elbow in, and 'felt' it:redface:.
 
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