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Logan_Lamothe said:
My first moose with the 30/30 was a bull at 130 yards I shoot in through the lungs it went 4 steps and collapsed. Don't hate because your a hack, and can't hunt like a man.
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I didnt insult you personally so check yourself.

Now pertaining to your "moose"

I bet it was a a whopping 14" bull want it.... or a calf?
 
MadDog said:
K really, you guys really need to get out to the range soon. The snow is gone or have you looked out your windows lately?

You know back in the day moose were taken with black powder and a ball of lead, are there better options today, of course there are but do we really gotta get into a 6 page arguement over it?
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Maybe you guys missed MadDog's post above so I BTT here it now for brevity.

Please keep the thread on topic without insulting each other.

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NAA.
 
Logan_Lamothe said:
No, it was a cow but there was fire in her eyes.
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and what I am saying, is big bulls (50inch calibre) eat up the lead,
and I am done with arguing. Back to topic.

There was a post about the Savage 300mag for 500 bucks... That too should make my list.

Win M 70 300win mag
Ruger M77 300win mag
Rem M700 300win mag
or Savage m111 300win mag
 
waderow said:
THANK YOU! This has been driving me nutz on this site... all these armchair moose hunters and "old indian tricks".

You arA 30/30 is unethical and near useless against a BIG moose. e often shooting from 20-300 yards. You are often shooting in rugged terrain and do not want to track a moose for a mile. You are often shooting through "trash" and a heavier bullet is required. A small bullet will not get good penetration in a moose and even a hopped up 300mag will not blow through a decent sized moose, let alone a monster.
I have had all kinds of guys flame me about my recommendations to shoot magnums when moose hunting, but one thing I can promise is that I have taken large moose, witnessed large moose go down, and when shooting front shoulders, they were all multiple magnum hits. All lethal, but not one shot put them down. It was always shot 2 or 3 or in once case 4 (all hits). We are talking 50inch+ bulls and we are talking shoulder breakers, and double lung, and just plain old devastating shots. But the BIG moose eat that s**t for breakfast. The only feasible way I could see a 1500 pound rutting bull go down in one shot is with a spine shot (high shoulder), or a solid head shot or a neck shot that hits bone. These are all low percentage shots, and the high shoulder shot in a moose is dangerous as you could easily hit him in the hump, and bye bye. A head shot could easily wound too and should be done at <50yards.
Big moose = big gun = big shoulder shots

PS all these 30-30 moose hunters never seem to tell about the ones that got away
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So you shoot moose 4 times with the uber magnums to get em down,..bravo...

sucks that I use the unethical 30/30...
 
Then the theory of carrying a .577 T-Rex means I should shoot only the biggest moose out there....and leave the rest according to the size, for the magnum guys and only the smallest ones and bunnies for the 30.30 crews?...
PHHHT.

Re-read my previous post about it all...
 
fbimagery said:
Then the theory of carrying a .577 T-Rex means I should shoot only the biggest moose out there....and leave the rest according to the size, for the magnum guys and only the smallest ones and bunnies for the 30.30 crews?...
PHHHT.

Re-read my previous post about it all...
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right to the extreme. Read my posts first maybe.
 
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180gr .30-06 = DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD

30-30's and big magnums will kill moose too, but no one will argue that this is a poor choice (unlike the arguement that is going on right now).

waderow: slide the crosshairs of that magnum of yours about 8" back on the moose and you will shoot through the ribs/heart/lungs/ribs and out the other side, saving yourself 3 bullets and many pounds of meat. Anchoring shoulder shots are for dangerous game! (I do like the .300Mag though!)
 
get a savage in either 30-06 and shoot 180's or a 7mmRemMag and a 175 grain bullet, just fast enough to make up for the whopping difference in weight. Nice thing about the -06 is you can get factory loads for everything from antelope loads to bear/ moose loads

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jaydog said:
180gr .30-06 = DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD

30-30's and big magnums will kill moose too, but no one will argue that this is a poor choice (unlike the arguement that is going on right now).

waderow: slide the crosshairs of that magnum of yours about 8" back on the moose and you will shoot through the ribs/heart/lungs/ribs and out the other side, saving yourself 3 bullets and many pounds of meat. Anchoring shoulder shots are for dangerous game! (I do like the .300Mag though!)
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Too far back and you liver him, and it s gong show. With a shoulder shot. I am double lunging him, and 9/10 putting rounds on the back side shoulder bones taking out both legs. As you must already know, heart shots would be too low, and are a low percentage shot. You miss the heart, he runs away.

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There is no way I would use a 30-30 on a moose,

I live in the heart of Moose country and have shot and been involved with lots of Moose kills. Don't use a 30-30, ya ya you could kill one with it but there is so little room for error that it is just not ethical hunting. These are big frickin criiters, wait until you have to try moving one.

Any of the 30-06 and bigger calibers will work fine. Whatever you choose, buy it well before hunting season and shoot it a bunch, get used to loading and working the action, realeasing the safety etc. I've seen many a missed opportunity due to someone with a new rifle that they are not familiar with in a hurry up situation and they can't get a clip in or a safety released.

Make sure that scope has a 2.5 or 3x setting as many shots are in dense bush or shorter distances (ie 100m).

and...have fun
 
Pinebeetle said:
There is no way I would use a 30-30 on a moose,

I live in the heart of Moose country and have shot and been involved with lots of Moose kills. Don't use a 30-30, ya ya you could kill one with it but there is so little room for error that it is just not ethical hunting. These are big frickin criiters, wait until you have to try moving one.

Any of the 30-06 and bigger calibers will work fine. Whatever you choose, buy it well before hunting season and shoot it a bunch, get used to loading and working the action, realeasing the safety etc. I've seen many a missed opportunity due to someone with a new rifle that they are not familiar with in a hurry up situation and they can't get a clip in or a safety released.

Make sure that scope has a 2.5 or 3x setting as many shots are in dense bush or shorter distances (ie 100m).

and...have fun
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I come from moose country too (highest concentration in NA)

30/30 has proved itself time and time again...

I've shot a large Bull at 80 yrds and it was a two step fall..

I have seen at least 20 more shot with a 30/30 and seen the first hand results of well over 100 that were shot with a 30/30...
 
waderow said:
try shooting a big one and see what happens
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Breaking both shoulders and through the lungs and still can't get that Moose down...they sure are tough bastards...;)

Depending on how you hunt or what shots you take and how you define an ethical and humane shot might change this thought of mine,...

but if your moose are always taking 3 and 4 shots to just to get them down...I suggest you might want to spend more time at the range

a 300 WM is a deadly gun, yes sir,..and lots of power,..

but bigger guns don't compensate for lack of skill...

Not saying you're lacking, just that you are firing 3 and 4 shots (all of which you claimed were, what was it again ,
lethal, devastating double broken shoulder double lung shots that don't put the moose down
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Now no doubt, sometimes it does take that second shot, or even the third when you stand over him (or a knife cut) but 3 and 4 double shoulder breaking double lung shots to get a moose down...
While I have witneesed a lot of moose being shot, and shot a few myself, I haven't seen too many occasions where 3 or 4 double shoulder breaking, double lung shots have been required to have the moose down...

Nor have I heard too many people use the term anchoring for their initial shot on a moose.. basically break his shoulder so you can keep shooting him..


Like I said, a bit more time at the range might help ya out in the field,.. if you're not careful you're soon gonna need to switch out clips so you have enough bullets..

As for all the 30/30 shot moose that get away???

I have never seen a moose that was shot 4 times with a 30/30 to put it down... and I have seen a few..
I don't even know anyone who has shot a moose with 4 good hits.

but if they don't stop, ya gotta do something I suppose.
 
sealhunter said:
Breaking both shoulders and through the lungs and still can't get that Moose down...they sure are tough bastards...;)

Depending on how you hunt or what shots you take and how you define an ethical and humane shot might chnage this thought of mine,...

but if your moose are always taking 3 and 4 shots to just to get them down...I suggest you might want to spend more time at the range

a 300 WM is a deadly gun, yes sir,..and lots of power,..

but bigger guns don't compensate for lack of skill...

Not saying you're lacking, just that you are firing 3 and 4 shots (all of which you claimed were, what was it again ,

Now no doubt, sometimes it does take that second shot, or even the third when you stand over him (or a knife cut) but 3 and 4 double shoulder breaking double lung shots to get a moose down...
While I have witneesed a lot of moose being shot, and shot a few myself, I haven't seen too many occasions where 3 or 4 double shoulder breaking, double lung shots have been required to have the moose down...

Nor have I heard too many people use the term anchoring for their initial shot on a moose.. basically break his shoulder so you can keep shooting him..


Like I said, a bit more time at the range might help ya out in the field,.. if you're not careful you're soon gonna need to switch clips so you have enough bullets..

As for all the 30/30 shot moose that get away???

I have never seen a moose that was shot 4 times with a 30/30 to put it down... and I have seen a few..
I don't even know anyone who has shot a moose with 4 good hits.

but if they don't stop, ya gotta do something I suppose.
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try shooting a big one... and nice spin on putting words in my mouth. I said 2 shots or 3, and ONCE 4.

but end of discussion. if you dont know, and dont get into the big bulls, you just dont understand. have fun with your little guys, and I will have fun with my brutes.
 
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waderow said:
try shooting a big one... and nice spin on putting words in my mouth. I said 2 shots or 3, and ONCE 4. Youre like a liberal

but end of discussion. if you dont know, and dont get into the big bulls, you just dont understand. have fun with your little guys, and I will have fun with my brutes.
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says it all,...get into post counts and trader ratings and you'll have come full circle ;)
 
sealhunter said:
says it all,...get into post counts and trader ratings and you'll have come full circle ;)
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wow. :jerkit: I must have touched a nerve. Are you one of those "Subsistence hunters" who prides himself on his snow mobile and spotlight kills on a cow calf combo?
 
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