Can CF members deploy overseas with personally owned weapons?

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Can for example a CF member take his/her 9mm handgun for use overthere? If i were a memeber and wasn`t issued a handgun i`d want to take my own.
 
As above no.

Wow. I've been saying this even to people within the CF who have made formal requests....like wtf.

Funny enough, this topic came up again today in conversation and there is a recent CANFORGEN that goes again to reiterate that mbrs can not procure and use their own wpns, ammo and various PPE on operations(the latter being the only one I would say has justified reasons for, eg ballistic glasses/goggles...but not stuff like soft armour and plates)
 
Any particular reason WHY??

I know that some members of the US Armed Forces can carry their own personal sidearms as long as they can use issue ammo.
 
I suspect many do not want to use a Browning Hi-Power. :) I know Glock and others have been issued to some troops. Morpheus likely knows what the status of the upgrade program is currently.
 
C Broad Arrow said:
I suspect many do not want to use a Browning Hi-Power. :) I know Glock and others have been issued to some troops. Morpheus likely knows what the status of the upgrade program is currently.
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You know that Glocks have been issued to Canadian soldiers? How do you know that?
 
Eric_911 said:
You know that Glocks have been issued to Canadian soldiers? How do you know that?
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I said some troops as part of an evaluation. Comes from my contact who is in DND and involved in the prep of the troops etc. Glocks and others have been provided to medics and other combat arms where working a rifle is not the best suited given their job. But I do not know if they have become standard issue.

I do not have direct knowledge other than what I have been told. Morpheus as I said will likely have a better idea than me.
 
Sig225 is standard issue for aircrew and may also be carried while deployed on a land op. In my own experience, I was given the option of drawing a Sig but chose a HP.
 
Any particular reason WHY??
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Dunno, the reason about ammo availability springs to mind. Maybe about the parts / mag interchangeability although I think thats kind of a weak reason. Probably the real reason is "because we said so". Wouldn't that be typical :)

I suspect many do not want to use a Browning Hi-Power.
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Amen. Yech.

Sig225 is standard issue for aircrew and may also be carried while deployed on a land op. In my own experience, I was given the option of drawing a Sig but chose a HP.
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Interesting, if someone offered me Sig226 or 229 I wouldn't be thinking about changing up, thats a great gun!
 
I have seen both the Sig P225 and Sig P226 in regular CF issue. I've only ever been trained or issued with the Hi-Power. And like everyone else has said, it's a huge no-no to bring your own.

I have talked to a senior NCO who was working in Procurement, and the word is that there is an official pistol replacement in the works, but it's just moving very slowly. Things like tanks and the CH-47 take a little more importance, i guess. I wouldn't be surprised if the P226 ends up as the selection, since it's already in the system, and I'd imagine that's a big part of the battle. I've heard that CF procurement is a nightmare to deal with if you're bidding for a contract.

My 0.02.
 
I think part of their worry is also legal. Imagine a soldier loses his life because his personally owned weapon jams up on him. That could lead to some nasty press and tough questions from the family.
 
The good old Inglis does the job... Its a good ennough shooter up to 25meters which is all you need. Its just there in case you need a boomstick and scare people off (which I did in Afghanistan and it works way better than a C7) and if you're in a combat situation you usually have your C7 with you. Usually certain trades, positions or NCOs/Officers have sidearms and the other guys do just fine without them... Why change it NOW when it works for and will probably still will in a few years. I'd rather have a metal frame HP in the field than my Glock which could brake the second I jump in the first ditch because shells or bullets are flying by.

but thats my .02 cent, from someone who actually wore/used it in theater and I'm pretty sure many guys here will agree me...
 
Maybe not today but, in the first gulf war, I was on the Huron and I clearly remember one Sea King pilot packing a Colt Python on a shoulder rig. It was before digital cameras. Sure wish I had a picture of it.
 
Its gonna be a sad day when the High Power is retired. Not only are they a good pistol, but are full of History. Hopefully, the last wont be retired until we can get that stupid law keeping firearms from being surplussed, I would buy a few. (I dream, I know, but dreams are what shape reality)
 
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